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ScionStorm
26th April 2016, 07:18 AM
Thought I'd make this thread already. I'll update it as info starts to come in next month.

Invasion Of Venom
July 9th, 2016

30 Packs per Box
5 Cards per Pack

6 Ultra Rares
10 Super Rares
18 Rares
46 Commons
- All Ultras are also Ultimate Rare
- All Super and Ultra Rares are also Secret Rare
- 1 card is Holographic Rare



Set #

Card Name
Rarity
Card Type


001





002





003





004





005





006
Predator Plant Fly Hell (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Predator_Plant_Fly_Hell)
Rare
Effect Monster


007
Predator Plant Moray Nepenthes (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Predator_Plant_Moray_Nepenthes)
Common
Effect Monster


008
Predator Plant Squid Drosera (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Predator_Plant_Squid_Drosera)
Common
Effect Monster


009





010
Cipher Twin Raptor (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Cipher_Twin_Raptor)
Common
Effect Monster


012
Cipher Mirror Knight (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Cipher_Mirror_Knight)
Common
Effect Monster


013





014





015





016





017





018





019





020





021





022





023
Chemical Beast Hydron Hawk (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chemical_Beast_Hydron_Hawk)
Common
Gemini Monster


024
Chemical Beast Carbon Crab (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chemical_Beast_Carbon_Crab)
Common
Gemini Monster


025
Chemical Beast Oxine Ox (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chemical_Beast_Oxine_Ox)
Rare
Gemini Monster


026
Advanced Chemical Beast Dyoxen (https://forums.ygorganization.com/px"http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Advanced_Chemical_Beast_Dyoxen")
Common
Gemini Monster


027
Advanced Chemical Beast Hy Dragon (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Advanced_Chemical_Beast_Hy_Dragon)




028





029
PSY-Frame Multi-Threader (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/PSY-Frame_Multi-Threader)

Effect Monster


030
Graydle Slime Jr. (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graydle_Slime_Jr.)

Effect Tuner Monster


031
Aromaseraphy Angelica (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Aromaseraphy_Angelica)

Effect Tuner Monster


032
Dokidoki (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dokidoki)

Effect Monster Monster


033
Torque Tune Gear (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Torque_Tune_Gear)

Effect Tuner Union Monster


034





035





036
Cyber Angel - Vishnu (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Cyber_Angel_-_Vishnu)
Rare
Effect Ritual Monster


037





038

Starve Venom Fusion Dragon (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Starve_Venom_Fusion_Dragon)
Ultra Rare
Secret Rare
Holographic Rare
Effect Fusion Monster


039





040





041





042





043
Cardian - Inoshikacho (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Cardian_-_Inoshikacho)
Super Rare
Secret Rare
Effect Synchro Monster


044





045





046

Crystron Phoenixion (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Crystron_Phoenixion)
Ultra Rare
Secret Rare
Ultimate Rare
Effect Synchro Monster


047
Aromaseraphy Rosemary (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Aromaseraphy_Rosemary)
Secret Rare
Effect Synchro Monster


048





049

Dark Requiem Xyz Dragon (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Requiem_Xyz_Dragon)
Ultra Rare
Secret Rare
Ultimate Rare
Effect Xyz Monster


050
Super Chemical Beast Methane Hyd (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Chemical_Beast_Methane_Hyd)

Effect Xyz Monster


051





052





053
Amazing Pendulum (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Amazing_Pendulum)
Common
Normal Spell Card


054
Rank-Up-Magic The Phantom Knights of Launch (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Rank-Up-Magic_The_Phantom_Knights_of_Launch)
Rare
Quick-Play Spell Card


055
Hanazumi (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hanazumi)
Common
Normal Spell Card


056
Chokoikoi (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chokoikoi)
Rare
Normal Spell Card


057





058





059
Spark Field (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Spark_Field)
Rare
Field Spell Card


060
Red-Eyes Insight (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Red-Eyes_Insight)

Normal Spell Card


061
Igknight Unite (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Igknight_Unite)

Quick-Play Spell Card


062





063
"A" Cell Recombination Device (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/%22A%22_Cell_Recombination_Device)

Quick-Play Spell Card


064





065
Pot of Avidity (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Pot_of_Avidity)

Quick-Play Spell Card


066





067
King's Synchro (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/King%27s_Synchro)

Normal Trap Card


068





069





070
No Cheaters Allowed (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/No_Cheaters_Allowed)
Common
Continiuous Trap Card


071





072





073
Burn Out (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Burn_Out)
Common
Normal Trap Card


074
PSY-Frame Accelerator (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/PSY-Frame_Accelerator)

Continuous Trap Card


075





076
Qliphort Down (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Qliphort_Down)


Normal Trap Card



077





078
Dimension Barrier‎ (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dimension_Barrier)

Normal Trap Card


079





080

Hope in the Interstice
26th April 2016, 07:22 AM
http://i.imgur.com/YxJQ2cC.jpg

According to this, we're getting support for

• Yang Zing
• Qliphort
• Red-Eyes
• Aromage
• ???
• PSY-Frame
• Metalphosis

Last one was obvious but rejoice all the same.

ScionStorm
26th April 2016, 07:30 AM
What do you guys want out of this set? We've got no info to go on save for the title heavily inferring one anime card so for now go crazy. Hopes, dreams, nightmare-fuel.

We'll see how Asuka is handled this Sunday, but for now, I would hope for a new Cyber Angel ritual monster(anime) along with a MoBC retrain ritual. So yeah, hoping for at least a couple of Ritual monsters. Also, in honor of Cyber Angels(and Chaos MAX?), and instead of getting a new anime ritual spell for them (we are only just getting Machine Angel Ritual next month!) instead we get a game original LIGHT version of Earth Chant.

As far as anime, I would really like to see the Earthbounds come out( After ep. 101 I'm leaning heavily towards Abyss Actors for the DARK SP) That would mean though we'd have to get about 9-10 Spell/Trap slots for anime. This is me thinking all or most Sergey support plus a couple cards from other duelists. At least 3 more slots than we got in TDIL. But then this looks like the closing set for the 900 series, so Wynaut.

Edit: Hope! Where'd that news come from? Red-Eyes support is gonna make some people really happy. Qliphort support is gonna make some people cry. Aromage support is great!

Still hoping we catch up with the Charmers. Where is the last Elemental Possessing Familiar? Can we at least get Advanced Petit Dragon? And maybe Familiar Possessed Lyna?

I'd say the last Agents but I'd rather see them in a Structure Deck R for Lost Sanctuary.

Hope in the Interstice
26th April 2016, 07:45 AM
Edit: Hope! Where'd that news come from? Red-Eyes support is gonna make some people really happy. Qliphort support is gonna make some people cry. Aromage support is great!
I dunno. It was just in chat that I found it. Sorry.

Sanokal
26th April 2016, 08:36 AM
http://i.imgur.com/YxJQ2cC.jpg

According to this, we're getting support for

Yang Zing
Qliphort
Red-Eyes
Aromage
???
PSY-Frame
Metalphosis

Last one was obvious but rejoice all the same.

Wait.

WHAT?!

A conclusion to the third DT?

Indytotof
26th April 2016, 09:16 AM
http://i.imgur.com/YxJQ2cC.jpg

According to this, we're getting support for

• Yang Zing
• Qliphort
• Red-Eyes
• Aromage
• ???
• PSY-Frame
• Metalphosis

Last one was obvious but rejoice all the same.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

Hope in the Interstice
26th April 2016, 09:21 AM
As you people cheer for this legacy support, I'd like for you to all remember Dinomist Ankylos from TDIL.

That is all.

ScionStorm
26th April 2016, 09:32 AM
As you people cheer for this legacy support, I'd like for you to all remember Dinomist Ankylos from TDIL.

That is all.

Well, we had already gotten Spinos in SHVI.

Sanokal
26th April 2016, 09:37 AM
To be honest, aside from a Red-Eyes card for a friend, I'm more interested in the potential story from DT3.

Hopefully it's a Primal Origin level set though. That set was godly.

Dread Kaiser
26th April 2016, 11:40 AM
I want a god damn Pendulum Tuner series.

ones that DON'T effectively lock themselves into a single synchro

Destiny91
26th April 2016, 12:27 PM
http://i.imgur.com/YxJQ2cC.jpg

According to this, we're getting support for

• Yang Zing
• Qliphort
• Red-Eyes
• Aromage
• ???
• PSY-Frame
• Metalphosis

Last one was obvious but rejoice all the same.

Will we finally get a Level 6 or 10 Synchro Yang Zing? I hope we do. Or at least 1 that gives a good effects as Synchro material.
I pray to the heavens that we get no more Tellarknights, just that.
I don't know which thing is left to negate with Psyframe Gears, so we'll probably get a S/T card or another Synchro.

I'm intrigued about Aromage support.

Anyway, we'll only get 1 card per archetype. So it won't make things much more Meta than they are now.

Hope in the Interstice
26th April 2016, 01:05 PM
Anyway, we'll only get 1 card per archetype. So it won't make things much more Meta than they are now.
Blaze Accelerator Magazine would like a word with you.

SynjoDeonecros
26th April 2016, 02:58 PM
Yang Zing and Aromage support is welcome, they sorely needed it. DUnno about the rest, though...

Destiny91
26th April 2016, 03:18 PM
Blaze Accelerator Magazine would like a word with you.

Well, It was like that with TDIL.

We only got 1 of each.

More would be great, but it seems difficult.

KingJinzo
26th April 2016, 05:29 PM
While I'd appreciate Qli support... I don't believe that.

Charly Ruri Raptors
26th April 2016, 06:19 PM
??? May be Greydel?

Indytotof
26th April 2016, 06:38 PM
While I'd appreciate Qli support

??? May be Greydel?

You both, corner !

Destiny91
26th April 2016, 06:53 PM
You both, corner !

The archetypes are ordered chronologicaly. Which means the unrevealed archetype has to be something that appeared between aromages (Clash of Rebellions) and PSYFrame (High Speed Riders).
So it has to be something from Dimension of Chaos.

KingJinzo
26th April 2016, 07:07 PM
The archetypes are ordered chronologicaly. Which means the unrevealed archetype has to be something that appeared between aromages (Clash of Rebellions) and PSYFrame (High Speed Riders).
So it has to be something from Dimension of Chaos.

But Red-Eyes and Aromage were both featured in Clash of Rebellions. And there is no archetype listed here that debuted in Secrets of Eternity.

DelCtrl
26th April 2016, 07:31 PM
While this list looks fake as hell, I would like new Red-Eyes and Aromages. Even Qlis, if it doesn't mean a return to Turbo Towers.

Indytotof
26th April 2016, 08:01 PM
The archetypes are ordered chronologicaly. Which means the unrevealed archetype has to be something that appeared between aromages (Clash of Rebellions) and PSYFrame (High Speed Riders).
So it has to be something from Dimension of Chaos.

You totally miss the joke don't you ?

LolsterXD97
26th April 2016, 08:26 PM
Only here for SVFD (and any potential Cipher, Cyber Angel and D - HERO support).

The Sonic Duck
26th April 2016, 08:57 PM
Man, I never thought they would ever revisit Aromage or Red-Eyes. Not that I am complaining. I'm really unsure what other support Psy-Frames could get. Perhaps their own Psychic Feel Zone or maybe a new synchro.

As for new decks, I expect to see Ancient Gears and Predator Plants. As the set is called the Invasion of Venom, I feel the Ancient Gears would go with the whole invasion theme. I know people expect Predator Plants in their own set like the other Yu- decks but the next SP set is apparently going to be Destiny Hero themed (Though that set is dark themed so maybe they could still be there). Another reason is that the cover monster is 99% likely going to be Starve Venom and fusions by nature are not very generic, so I feel it would probably bring it's own deck along with it.

Erickdsl
26th April 2016, 09:37 PM
If they are giving new support for yang zings and qlis, can we expect the continuation of the DT's lore?

The only new thing they can give to psy-frames is summon negation but that would be too op...

I know this is probably fake, but a man can dream.

Dyson Sphere
26th April 2016, 10:41 PM
Man, I never thought they would ever revisit Aromage or Red-Eyes. Not that I am complaining. I'm really unsure what other support Psy-Frames could get. Perhaps their own Psychic Feel Zone or maybe a new synchro.

As for new decks, I expect to see Ancient Gears and Predator Plants. As the set is called the Invasion of Venom, I feel the Ancient Gears would go with the whole invasion theme. I know people expect Predator Plants in their own set like the other Yu- decks but the next SP set is apparently going to be Destiny Hero themed (Though that set is dark themed so maybe they could still be there). Another reason is that the cover monster is 99% likely going to be Starve Venom and fusions by nature are not very generic, so I feel it would probably bring it's own deck along with it.

even though there are plenty of generic fusions, like dragonecro nethersoul dragon , or panzer dragon, theres also the predator plant fusion monster yuri used in the manga where he just fused 2 of yuyas performapals

Dread Kaiser
26th April 2016, 10:44 PM
even though there are plenty of generic fusions, like dragonecro nethersoul dragon , or panzer dragon, theres also the predator plant fusion monster yuri used in the manga where he just fused 2 of yuyas performapals

"Generic" being only semi-generic at best
"Plenty" being like 10 cards out of god knows how many Fusions

LolsterXD97
26th April 2016, 11:46 PM
Have SVFD be 2 monsters or 2 Level 5 or higher monsters (the characteristic Level 5 or higher clause of the Summon Dragons must go somewhere) and you are ready for a generic Fusion.

ScionStorm
27th April 2016, 01:09 AM
As for new decks, I expect to see Ancient Gears and Predator Plants. As the set is called the Invasion of Venom, I feel the Ancient Gears would go with the whole invasion theme. I know people expect Predator Plants in their own set like the other Yu- decks but the next SP set is apparently going to be Destiny Hero themed (Though that set is dark themed so maybe they could still be there). Another reason is that the cover monster is 99% likely going to be Starve Venom and fusions by nature are not very generic, so I feel it would probably bring it's own deck along with it.

The only Ancient Gears I see possibly coming out immediately in this set are the ones that Roger played.

Clear Wing came out like 6 months before Speedroids as an Archetype. I don't expect Starve Venom to immediately herald Predatory Plants. Fusion Dragon's materials will probably be just as generic as the other dragons in its own way.

I want an upgrade to Jinzo archetype support so it becomes a predator to mirror forces, horns and Traptrix holes, creepy as that sounds. A Jinzo fusion that preys on Rafflessia Xyz and its illk.

The Sonic Duck
27th April 2016, 02:35 AM
The only Ancient Gears I see possibly coming out immediately in this set are the ones that Roger played.


I don't really see any reason why the Hound Dogs and friends couldn't show up too.

King
27th April 2016, 03:35 AM
Have SVFD be 2 monsters or 2 Level 5 or higher monsters (the characteristic Level 5 or higher clause of the Summon Dragons must go somewhere) and you are ready for a generic Fusion.

It already went to Clear Wing. But this sounds a fair Fusion Summon condition.

melcarba
27th April 2016, 04:35 PM
Since TDIL has supports for all BOSH-archetypes (Shiranui, Dinomist) and legacy support (Buster Blader), then we can expect Igknight support since Aromages and Red-Eyes support were leaked to be there.

ScionStorm
27th April 2016, 07:24 PM
Since TDIL has supports for all BOSH-archetypes (Shiranui, Dinomist) and legacy support (Buster Blader), then we can expect Igknight support since Aromages and Red-Eyes support were leaked to be there.

I think the Dinomist support was just rapping up the last of the monsters they had to release. There's more than enough Igknights. My guess would be Greydle. My hope would be a new BLS ritual monster and Chaos Sword Strike signature move card. I would love to see multiple Ritual monsters. New BLS, MoBC retrain and a new Cyber Angel. Of course I'd also go for a Chaos Emperor Dragon Ritual at some point... more appropriate targets for Chaos Form.

Sakuraba
1st May 2016, 03:44 AM
All I want to see is Starve Venom, really. I would like to see Fusion Cyber Angels, you know... With the hole Fusion Dimension/Fusion Series going on... And good Speedroids.

I won't believe this leak until proven otherwise. It seems... Too good to be true. Maybe a single card, but I'll remain skeptical.

King
1st May 2016, 03:57 AM
I am just sitting and waiting for the Xyz Monsters in this pack.

ScionStorm
1st May 2016, 04:23 AM
I am just sitting and waiting for the Xyz Monsters in this pack.

I see this as the last set for the Synchro arc. Kaito is already getting his stuff in the Collectors Pack. As well as Cyber Angels introduction. D-HEROs are being saved for the SP and we don't have descriptions of anything passed next week's episode yet. And It's likely the new SHS Synchro will be in this set. We might get the last Goyo + Goyo Arrow spell. Maybe the Earthbound stuff. I don't see us getting the Bee Force cards any time soon. I would have expected those in the Collectors Pack but that doesn't seem the case.

King
1st May 2016, 04:55 AM
I see this as the last set for the Synchro arc. Kaito is already getting his stuff in the Collectors Pack. As well as Cyber Angels introduction. D-HEROs are being saved for the SP and we don't have descriptions of anything passed next week's episode yet. And It's likely the new SHS Synchro will be in this set. We might get the last Goyo + Goyo Arrow spell. Maybe the Earthbound stuff. I don't see us getting the Bee Force cards any time soon. I would have expected those in the Collectors Pack but that doesn't seem the case.

I Hope there is no Blackfeathers this time.

ScionStorm
1st May 2016, 05:15 AM
I Hope there is no Blackfeathers this time.

I'm hoping the last 4 Ass. Blackwings are dumped into the spaces in front of Cipher Wing so we can be done with them.

Hoozuki_Suigetsu
4th May 2016, 03:12 PM
Someone told me this is fake... Is true or not at the end?

Indytotof
4th May 2016, 04:02 PM
Someone told me this is fake... Is true or not at the end?

We don't know. No confirmation about the reliatibility of this list whatsover.

I do hope it's not.

Dread Kaiser
4th May 2016, 04:09 PM
We don't know. No confirmation about the reliatibility of this list whatsover.

I do hope it's not.

That makes you, gimme that Red-eyes and Aromage support

Bloodclown
4th May 2016, 04:23 PM
For Metalphosis/Metalfoes
*I can see them getting some kind of super polymerization due to their fusions Metalphosis/Metalfoes Cardinal, and Admante both requiring strange summoning conditions(1 "Metalphosis" monster + 2 monsters with 3000 or less ATK, and 1 "Metalphosis" monster + 1 monster with 2500 or less ATK respectively).

On their trap card Metalphosis Combination they're fighting "Agnimazd Vanisher, the True Dracoruler", and on the card they're they're showing off their fusions ( Orihulk, Adamante, and what looks to be an evolved silvird...but no Cardinal) so perhaps some card that allows them to gain specific effects depending on the amount of different Metalphosis combinations.

It looks like Metalphosis Silvird is evolving on the "Metalphosis fusion card", and since that's the only pendulum Metalphosis card currently without an evolved fusion card I'd place bets on that.

SynjoDeonecros
4th May 2016, 06:30 PM
When is this set coming out, again? And why haven't we heard more about the cards in it? It should be coming out, soon, right? I mean, each Japanese set usually comes out a few weeks after the last English set, right?

Indytotof
4th May 2016, 06:33 PM
When is this set coming out, again? And why haven't we heard more about the cards in it? It should be coming out, soon, right? I mean, each Japanese set usually comes out a few weeks after the last English set, right?

July 9, 2016

And it's indeed the tenth set of the 9th series. According to the wikia.

DelCtrl
4th May 2016, 06:44 PM
July 9, 2016

And it's indeed the tenth set of the 9th series. According to the wikia.

I don't believe in the wikia anymore. Until the Org confirms it, its just speculation. Even thou I would love to see more Red-Eyes and Aromage support, I don't believe in the rumors about these either.

Buuuuut...

IMO, this set should be the tenth of the 9th series because it makes sense. Usually each series start with a green set with Duelist in its name and Invasion of Venom doesn't seem to have any of those attributes. Plus, if it really contains Starve Venom, then it would mean that all four Dimensional Dragons were released in series 9, and while that doesn't mean anything, I like the idea anyway.

Hoozuki_Suigetsu
4th May 2016, 06:53 PM
We don't know. No confirmation about the reliatibility of this list whatsover.

I do hope it's not.

why? I wanna red-eyes support ! And make them real threats for the new dark magician and blue-eyes deck out there, and not an archetype that could win with the lucky enough... (agaisn't them i mean)


For Metalphosis/Metalfoes
*I can see them getting some kind of super polymerization due to their fusions Metalphosis/Metalfoes Cardinal, and Admante both requiring strange summoning conditions(1 "Metalphosis" monster + 2 monsters with 3000 or less ATK, and 1 "Metalphosis" monster + 1 monster with 2500 or less ATK respectively).

I can see Mithril Metalphosis as a boss card.

ScionStorm
4th May 2016, 07:07 PM
Maybe Konami finally give us The Fire Hex-Sealed Fusion with the release of so many new FIRE fusion monsters.

Eerie Code
4th May 2016, 07:15 PM
If the set comes out at the beginning of July, then that means they'll probably start promoting it in this month's Jump, right?

Bloodclown
4th May 2016, 07:22 PM
why? I wanna red-eyes support ! And make them real threats for the new dark magician and blue-eyes deck out there, and not an archetype that could win with the lucky enough... (agaisn't them i mean)



I can see Mithril Metalphosis as a boss card.

I like it. Logical, sounds good, resembles silver I think this could serve as a good fusion upgrade of Metalphosis Silvird.

ScionStorm
4th May 2016, 07:38 PM
It would be nice if they could release Petit Dragon's Familiar Possessed upgrade form finally. And either Familiar-Possessed Lyna or Dharc's Cataclysmic form.

DelCtrl
4th May 2016, 07:41 PM
The Cataclysmic Charmers have nice artwork, but they don't offer much if you try and make a deck around the Charmers. If they make Dharc's, I hope that will change.

SynjoDeonecros
4th May 2016, 09:19 PM
Do people use Unpossessed? I'd think something like that for the Cataclysmic Charmers would work...

DelCtrl
4th May 2016, 09:34 PM
Unpossessed can SS the Cataclysmic, but as they don't have "Charmer" in their names, it won't protect them from battle, unfortunately.

ScionStorm
4th May 2016, 10:10 PM
The great downside of Cataclysmics is that they don't share an archetype name like Charmers and Familiar-Possessed so they can't easily be grouped under that kind of umbrella protection/support. Not sure how to solve that problem. At that point it might end up being more plausible to have individual support by character name than by archetype. Turning Wynn, Hiita, Eria, Aussa, Dharc and Lyna into their own individual archetypes of themselves in different forms- kind of like Gaia The Fierce Knight.

SynjoDeonecros
4th May 2016, 10:59 PM
So, have the effect state "blah blah blah Eria, Wynn, Hiita, Aussa, Dark, or Lyna monster, blah blah blah"? That could work, if the names stay with those characters...

ScionStorm
4th May 2016, 11:43 PM
The Cataclysmic Charmers have nice artwork, but they don't offer much if you try and make a deck around the Charmers. If they make Dharc's, I hope that will change.

Well, Dharc's Familiar-Possessed form has an extra effect that the other F-P monsters never had.


What do you guys think the next Toon Monster will be? Toon Vorse Raider? Toon Panther Warrior? Elemental HERO Toon Neos?

Baroque
5th May 2016, 12:31 AM
What do you guys think the next Toon Monster will be? Toon Vorse Raider? Toon Panther Warrior? Elemental HERO Toon Neos?
The last couple-to-few have been tied into the nostalgia support (Toon Red-Eyes, Toon BB, Toon DM), so perhaps whatever nostalgia set shows up in Invasion of Venom will be the next one to get a Toon?

Dread Kaiser
5th May 2016, 12:43 AM
The last couple-to-few have been tied into the nostalgia support (Toon Red-Eyes, Toon BB, Toon DM), so perhaps whatever nostalgia set shows up in Invasion of Venom will be the next one to get a Toon?

and they were all main deck normal or effect monsters, skipping Buster Blader
Toon Blue-eyes already exists but then we have that out of left field toon Barrel Dragon so I don't think its tied to nostalgia legacy support

ScionStorm
5th May 2016, 12:56 AM
Don't forget we even got Toon Cyber Dragon. But I'm tired of so many high-level Toons lately. We need to get back to the lower levels. And we have more than enough Machine Toons now.

Dread Kaiser
5th May 2016, 01:08 AM
Don't forget we even got Toon Cyber Dragon. But I'm tired of so many high-level Toons lately. We need to get back to the lower levels. And we have more than enough Machine Toons now.

Agreed. and something with a support effect since we have no need for more beaters either. hell I'd be satisfied with a double-tributer for toon ancient gear golem.

but barrel dragon aside, we seem to be more focused on iconic monsters......

TOON KURIBOH DAMNIT!!!
with a much upgraded effect natch

ScionStorm
5th May 2016, 01:18 AM
Well the last two Toonified vanillas (REBD and DM) were given direct support. RETD supports Toon as the ability. TDM supports "Toon" as the Archetype.

Zarkiel
5th May 2016, 03:02 AM
I want a god damn Pendulum Tuner series.

ones that DON'T effectively lock themselves into a single synchro

I'd rather konami tread lightly on that one, but I guess it can't be worse than what rank 4 already does.

On the other hand, more red eyes is nice. I mainly want my meteor black dragon retrain to go with red eyes fusion.

Dread Kaiser
5th May 2016, 03:29 AM
I'd rather konami tread lightly on that one, but I guess it can't be worse than what rank 4 already does.

On the other hand, more red eyes is nice. I mainly want my meteor black dragon retrain to go with red eyes fusion.

They already made self reviving level 4s and support xyz so hard that R4NKs are essentially free, there is literally nothing a pendulum tuner with no restrictions can do to beat that unless they make a series of comparably broken Synchros to go with

Baroque
5th May 2016, 07:58 PM
They already made self reviving level 4s and support xyz so hard that R4NKs are essentially free, there is literally nothing a pendulum tuner with no restrictions can do to beat that unless they make a series of comparably broken Synchros to go with
I honestly want to see testing done on that sort of thing; I've heard this claim before, and personally feel like it's a bit . . . I suppose a nice way to put it would be 'blinded by bias'? But it is at least thought-provoking to consider the possibilities of such a card.

Its usefulness would be determined by what it could make, even without restrictions placed on it, but a lack of restrictions -- even of the lightest variety, like D/D Orthros has -- honestly sounds like it could potentially lead to something uncommonly potent. Maybe not (or maybe so, never know) a speedy sort of potency, but just the capacity to consistently churn out a Synchro or more per turn sounds like it could add up to something big (and I don't just mean 'make this, make another thing, make something with both', but potent fields established with greater ease than normal).

King
5th May 2016, 08:43 PM
No More toons this time, there is nothing more disrepectful than be transformed into a toon.

SynjoDeonecros
5th May 2016, 09:45 PM
If there's Toon support, I hope that it's something that allows you to like swap out a non-Toon monster for its Toon counterpart.

Dread Kaiser
6th May 2016, 01:22 AM
I honestly want to see testing done on that sort of thing; I've heard this claim before, and personally feel like it's a bit . . . I suppose a nice way to put it would be 'blinded by bias'? But it is at least thought-provoking to consider the possibilities of such a card.

Its usefulness would be determined by what it could make, even without restrictions placed on it, but a lack of restrictions -- even of the lightest variety, like D/D Orthros has -- honestly sounds like it could potentially lead to something uncommonly potent. Maybe not (or maybe so, never know) a speedy sort of potency, but just the capacity to consistently churn out a Synchro or more per turn sounds like it could add up to something big (and I don't just mean 'make this, make another thing, make something with both', but potent fields established with greater ease than normal).

I won't deny that I am horribly biased. that said all the support Xyz has kinda makes everythings pale in comparison. Churning out a synchro per turn isn't hard, even by standards of ....2010. I mean fuck most good tuners setup their own summon anyway.

the issue is that unlike EVERYTHING else, they insist on making sure Synchros sink resources to summon. look at how many Synchros float or have decent staying power (read: castel proof) compared to Xyz or Fusions.

and I understand how Synchros have their own problem (probably the easiest to break and plenty just turn into Quasar food) but they continue to hold the entire mechanic back by refusing to give it comparable power to its fusion or xyz counterparts.

I see no reason that we can't have a pendulum tuner that doesn't lock itself into 1 synchro (which may aswell be a contact fusion at that point) or shuffle itself into the deck if you use it for something else. I'm not saying it can't have restrictions, just let it be generic.

D/D Othros is a damn good start and is basically what I want to see, just without the fiend lock.

Hope in the Interstice
6th May 2016, 01:24 AM
I remember back when I thought Pendulum Tuners would be broken. This is back when the power creep was at PRIO levels and we weren't quite settled in for DUEA yet.

How hopelessly naive of me.

Dread Kaiser
6th May 2016, 01:26 AM
I remember back when I thought Pendulum Tuners would be broken. This is back when the power creep was at PRIO levels and we weren't quite settled in for DUEA yet.

How hopelessly naive of me.

I remember how Pendulum was basically supposed to support all of the summoning methods, and yet the only one that it actually helps thus far is.......

Hope in the Interstice
6th May 2016, 01:46 AM
I remember how Pendulum was basically supposed to support all of the summoning methods, and yet the only one that it actually helps thus far is.......
... Tribute Summoning because of Qliphorts. Oh yeah, and Xyz Summoning because of Performages. It helps Fusion, Synchro, and Ritual too but don't forget that a method is only as good as its cards.

I do think you have a bit of a rose-tinted lens approach to this whole thing. Pendulum Summoning has only been successful in three/four instances (Magicians, Peformapals, and Qliphorts and maybe Metalfoes) because the cards were sufficiently good enough. Other Pendulum decks have a hard time, including but not limited to Dinomists, Igknights, Zefra, yadda yadda yadda.

Point is, Pendulums don't exactly have good partners to go Synchro and Fusion Summoning with. That said, they've definitely shown an aptitude for them, like with Ignister Prominence and First of the Dragons (and Metalfoes, I s'pose).

Dread Kaiser
6th May 2016, 02:16 AM
... Tribute Summoning because of Qliphorts. Oh yeah, and Xyz Summoning because of Performages. It helps Fusion, Synchro, and Ritual too but don't forget that a method is only as good as its cards.

I do think you have a bit of a rose-tinted lens approach to this whole thing. Pendulum Summoning has only been successful in three/four instances (Magicians, Peformapals, and Qliphorts and maybe Metalfoes) because the cards were sufficiently good enough. Other Pendulum decks have a hard time, including but not limited to Dinomists, Igknights, Zefra, yadda yadda yadda.

Point is, Pendulums don't exactly have good partners to go Synchro and Fusion Summoning with. That said, they've definitely shown an aptitude for them, like with Ignister Prominence and First of the Dragons (and Metalfoes, I s'pose).

I wouldn't say rose tinted and I was never talking about competitive success, the fact that they have made nothing to support a pendulum synchro (or pendulum non-xyz) thing is kinda my point.
my point is with the exception of Qli, the only thing pendulums have done is let people R4NK harder. the lack of interaction with Fusion or Synchro compared to teh potential interaction they have is the point of my complaint.

its combining 2 things I really hate, Hating Synchros and massive waste of potential. hence

the only one that it actually helps thus far is....... {Xyz}

Volteccer
6th May 2016, 03:11 AM
In theory, Nobledragon Magician + Perfomapal Odd-Eyes Light Pheonix = a free level 8 Dragon Synchro per turn. And yet my testing with that so far seems lackluster, mostly because the options are pretty slim. Pretty much just Ignister, RDA Scarlight, and the old standards like Stardust Dragon, which really isn't what it used to be. You could also use Odd-Eyes Mirage Dragon for a level 6 but that doesn't open up many more options.

There are a handful of good synchros, but I think that a lightly restricted Pendulum Tuner could work wonders. Type restrictions should work fine. What if Superheavy sams got another pair of pendulums, including a tuner?

Dread Kaiser
6th May 2016, 03:34 AM
In theory, Nobledragon Magician + Perfomapal Odd-Eyes Light Pheonix = a free level 8 Dragon Synchro per turn. And yet my testing with that so far seems lackluster, mostly because the options are pretty slim. Pretty much just Ignister, RDA Scarlight, and the old standards like Stardust Dragon, which really isn't what it used to be. You could also use Odd-Eyes Mirage Dragon for a level 6 but that doesn't open up many more options.

There are a handful of good synchros, but I think that a lightly restricted Pendulum Tuner could work wonders. Type restrictions should work fine. What if Superheavy sams got another pair of pendulums, including a tuner?

like I was saying, the restrictions are just unnecessary, and we need better synchros to go with.

Yuuri
6th May 2016, 05:27 AM
http://i.imgur.com/YxJQ2cC.jpg

According to this, we're getting support for

• Yang Zing
• Qliphort
• Red-Eyes
• Aromage
• ???
• PSY-Frame
• Metalphosis

Last one was obvious but rejoice all the same.

Red-Eyes Support?! This just made my night!! It's about time. Hopefully they do it right this time around.

PSY-Frame support as well? Hope it solves the consistency issue.

Totally hyped now, more so than I already was! Cannot wait for the next V-Jump! I just hope this is legitimate.

Hope in the Interstice
6th May 2016, 07:01 AM
Red-Eyes Support?! This just made my night!! It's about time. Hopefully they do it right this time around.

PSY-Frame support as well? Hope it solves the consistency issue.

Totally hyped now, more so than I already was! Cannot wait for the next V-Jump! I just hope this is legitimate.
Chances are it's fake, I've heard.

Indytotof
6th May 2016, 07:32 AM
Chances are it's fake, I've heard.

ssssssshhhhhhhh

Don't break hopes.

Hope in the Interstice
6th May 2016, 07:35 AM
ssssssshhhhhhhh

Don't break hopes.
I AM the hope!

ScionStorm
6th May 2016, 07:59 AM
All Hope is lost.

iNfiniTe Se7eNz
6th May 2016, 02:01 PM
I AM the hope!

Despair in the Interstice.

Or perhaps... Outerstice?

Yuuri
6th May 2016, 11:00 PM
Chances are it's fake, I've heard.

Well, that's a bummer. Still awaiting for confirmation, though. The Aromage and Red-Eyes support would make some people very happy.

ScionStorm
7th May 2016, 12:48 AM
Part of the confusion is that after what we got in TDIL and the belief that this is the final set in the 900 series, some of this is quite plausible.

melcarba
7th May 2016, 03:18 PM
Given that the TCG will debut 2 new archetypes in TDIL, and TDIL giving a 1-shot support for BOSH archetypes (Buster Blader, Dinomist and Shiranui), I think that there would be 2 more Series 9 Booster Packs before we go to Series 10.

ScionStorm
7th May 2016, 05:51 PM
You want a 911 booster pack?

Invasion of Venom would be 910. Tenth set in the 900 series.

Baroque
7th May 2016, 10:12 PM
You want a 911 booster pack?

Invasion of Venom would be 910. Tenth set in the 900 series.
I suppose that if we do get another set in the 900 series after this one, then they called 911 now (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Music/Skrillex).

King
7th May 2016, 10:19 PM
You want a 911 booster pack?

Invasion of Venom would be 910. Tenth set in the 900 series.

The only 911 i want is a Porsche.

melcarba
8th May 2016, 03:52 AM
You want a 911 booster pack?

Invasion of Venom would be 910. Tenth set in the 900 series.

It's not that I want a 911 Booster Pack, but certain patterns lead me to believe that there would be 12 Booster Packs for Series 9.
* Extending Series 9 to 12 Booster Packs would coincide with the supposed-to-be ARC-V ending in April, with 1001 coinciding with the supposed to be new anime.
* TCG exclusive archetypes always cover 4 packs. Given that they decide to debut new TCG archetypes instead of releasing support for the older (U.A. and Kaijuu) makes me believe that they will plan to end Series 9 in 12 Packs, instead of 10.
* I believe that the next 3 packs will give one-shot support for all archetypes from CORE to SHVI. TDIL did it with BOSH-archetypes. The next set might do it with CORE-archetypes (Red-Eyes, Aromage, Igknight(?)). The next 2 might do it with DOCS and SHVI archetypes (Graydle, Majespecter, Red Dragon Archfiend; Blue-Eyes, Digital Bug, Amorphage).
* There might be 4 True Dracoruler. Given that Agnimazd Vanisher is FIRE, I think we'll be seeing a WATER, EARTH and WIND variants, which fits the next 3 Booster Packs.

I might be wrong though. I'm just basing these speculations on the patterns from the previous sets. Well, I was expecting a WIND non-Pendulum archetype in SHVI, but we got Digital Bugs instead.

Yuuri
11th May 2016, 11:56 PM
It's not that I want a 911 Booster Pack, but certain patterns lead me to believe that there would be 12 Booster Packs for Series 9.
* Extending Series 9 to 12 Booster Packs would coincide with the supposed-to-be ARC-V ending in April, with 1001 coinciding with the supposed to be new anime.
* TCG exclusive archetypes always cover 4 packs. Given that they decide to debut new TCG archetypes instead of releasing support for the older (U.A. and Kaijuu) makes me believe that they will plan to end Series 9 in 12 Packs, instead of 10.
* I believe that the next 3 packs will give one-shot support for all archetypes from CORE to SHVI. TDIL did it with BOSH-archetypes. The next set might do it with CORE-archetypes (Red-Eyes, Aromage, Igknight(?)). The next 2 might do it with DOCS and SHVI archetypes (Graydle, Majespecter, Red Dragon Archfiend; Blue-Eyes, Digital Bug, Amorphage).
* There might be 4 True Dracoruler. Given that Agnimazd Vanisher is FIRE, I think we'll be seeing a WATER, EARTH and WIND variants, which fits the next 3 Booster Packs.

I might be wrong though. I'm just basing these speculations on the patterns from the previous sets. Well, I was expecting a WIND non-Pendulum archetype in SHVI, but we got Digital Bugs instead.

I'm up for more Red-Eyes support, seeing as how the deck still relies on other archetypes for an increase in consistency from my experiences. Perhaps this pack will drive the archetype into the right direction for once. I also wouldn't mind more Aromage support. It's an interesting archetype.

I am not too keen on the idea of Igknights getting more support, however. They're an archetype of Pendulum monsters without monster effects. More support for them would undoubtedly mean more support for Pendulum decks in general. Konami is known to pull stunts like that, and they would apply the same logic in this case.

I like the concept of the FIRE True Dracoruler (emperor?), but now that you mention it, I have a feeling that the archetype will turn into a Dragon Ruler 2.0, only they'll be Wyrms and not Dragons. The more I think about it, the more it seems likely to happen.

den13
12th May 2016, 08:36 PM
i just wanna know about starve venom fusion dragon effect and the predator plants archetype.... although red eyes support sounds cool....but predator plants even if it release in invasion of venom or the special booster set...

LolsterXD97
12th May 2016, 08:47 PM
Wait until half July.

ScionStorm
12th May 2016, 11:02 PM
i just wanna know about starve venom fusion dragon effect and the predator plants archetype.... although red eyes support sounds cool....but predator plants even if it release in invasion of venom or the special booster set...

I highly doubt the Predatory Plants are going to premiere in the same set as SVFD.

Yuuri
12th May 2016, 11:51 PM
I highly doubt the Predatory Plants are going to premiere in the same set as SVFD.

I agree with Scion on this. I feel as if SVFD may be the cover card for Invasion of Venom, and the Predator Plants will most likely either appear in the Booster Special after Destiny Soldiers, or they may very well appear in Destiny Soldiers; though, it is highly unlikely.

Nevertheless, wait until mid-July, or until V-Jump mentions something about it.

The Sonic Duck
13th May 2016, 01:18 AM
I agree with Scion on this. I feel as if SVFD may be the cover card for Invasion of Venom, and the Predator Plants will most likely either appear in the Booster Special after Destiny Soldiers, or they may very well appear in Destiny Soldiers; though, it is highly unlikely.

Nevertheless, wait until mid-July, or until V-Jump mentions something about it.
I understand your position. However, I think the plants might show up because STFD is a fusion and Fusions by nature are always much less generic than another type of monster. I don't feel that they would release it without also releasing a deck that could properly use it.

ScionStorm
13th May 2016, 01:30 AM
I understand your position. However, I think the plants might show up because STFD is a fusion and Fusions by nature are always much less generic than another type of monster. I don't feel that they would release it without also releasing a deck that could properly use it.

You have no idea what is required to prosperly use it. The most likely scenario is we get SVFD and Violet Flash.

King
13th May 2016, 03:06 AM
That Red-Eyes and Aromage support is confirmed ?

LolsterXD97
13th May 2016, 03:09 AM
That Red-Eyes and Aromage support is confirmed ?

By next week we might know something.

On another note, I'm betting the Inoshikacho Cardians and Cho Koi Koi will be here (for cross-promltion).

Sanokal
13th May 2016, 03:28 AM
You have no idea what is required to prosperly use it. The most likely scenario is we get SVFD and Violet Flash.

I'd imagine that we'll get Fly Hell and Moray Nepenthes but no others.

King
13th May 2016, 03:40 AM
By next week we might know something.

On another note, I'm betting the Inoshikacho Cardians and Cho Koi Koi will be here (for cross-promltion).

Its not too far, but i hope its fake.

Yuuri
13th May 2016, 05:31 AM
Its not too far, but i hope its fake.

Geh, you don't know what you're talking about. I personally hope like hell it's confirmed next week. My Red-Eyes deck needs more consistency or something.

ScionStorm
13th May 2016, 07:59 AM
I'd imagine that we'll get Fly Hell and Moray Nepenthes but no others.

We didn't get the 4 main deck Speedroids that appeared with the detailed premiere of Clear Wing when it came out in Crossover Soul and we actually had more than just names and faces to put to those cards. And then Kendama came out as a Jump promo.

Sanokal
13th May 2016, 09:42 AM
We didn't get the 4 main deck Speedroids that appeared with the detailed premiere of Clear Wing when it came out in Crossover Soul and we actually had more than just names and faces to put to those cards. And then Kendama came out as a Jump promo.

Guess it'll depend on the fusion materials. If they're generic enough then a more clever play for them would be to include an archetype or set of monsters that could feasibly be used as materials for Starve Venom.

The Sonic Duck
13th May 2016, 10:05 AM
You have no idea what is required to prosperly use it. The most likely scenario is we get SVFD and Violet Flash.
I'm going of only all fusion's we have ever had. The most generic one's I've seen are First of The Dragons and maybe Blaze Fenix, and personally I think fusion should have more requirements than just fusing two random monsters.

den13
13th May 2016, 02:51 PM
if starve venom materials is two earth plants type monster...it will be one hell of a broken deck with supports of rose lover,dandylion, meliae, glow-up bulb and the powerful cactus bouncer and all them other plants spell supports.....but looking at the amine...yuga need to use this card and the only plant monster he has is Performapal Radish Horse which is earth and konami will mostly likely debut a new one soon if yuya has to use this card.....but being two earth plants materials is too powerful as deck...so mostly likely i think that konami will make it be two dark plant material which can make the deck a top teir but not that too powerful....as it cannot abuse cactus bouncer and meliae....but yuga dont have no dark plant materials...hhhmmm or konami can reveal the materials to be 1 plant type monster and 1 dark material monster which makes more generic....and also yuga can fuse it with one of his dark monster and his Performapal Radish Horse...and this make the deck a little more powerful....but people remember you have to get polymerization to start actually doing combos so i think that balance out the deck.....but either way if starve venom has something to do with plants it will be a powerful deck with a lot of options......cards like rose lover, lonefire, super solar nutrient and also miracle fertilizer can be major support for this deck...think about it people plants have alot of support already all it needs is a good archetype to play it in....

Volteccer
13th May 2016, 04:54 PM
if starve venom materials is two earth plants type monster...it will be one hell of a broken deck with supports of rose lover,dandylion, meliae, glow-up bulb and the powerful cactus bouncer and all them other plants spell supports.....but looking at the amine...yuga need to use this card and the only plant monster he has is Performapal Radish Horse which is earth and konami will mostly likely debut a new one soon if yuya has to use this card.....but being two earth plants materials is too powerful as deck...so mostly likely i think that konami will make it be two dark plant material which can make the deck a top teir but not that too powerful....as it cannot abuse cactus bouncer and meliae....but yuga dont have no dark plant materials...hhhmmm or konami can reveal the materials to be 1 plant type monster and 1 dark material monster which makes more generic....and also yuga can fuse it with one of his dark monster and his Performapal Radish Horse...and this make the deck a little more powerful....but people remember you have to get polymerization to start actually doing combos so i think that balance out the deck.....but either way if starve venom has something to do with plants it will be a powerful deck with a lot of options......cards like rose lover, lonefire, super solar nutrient and also miracle fertilizer can be major support for this deck...think about it people plants have alot of support already all it needs is a good archetype to play it in....

It shouldn't be too broken, and starve venom should be relatively generic. Most xyz decks can user dark rebellion and most synchro decks can user clear wing. Odd-eyes can be put in mousy pendulum decks but it's usually used as a searcher at best.
I'm thinking starve venom will end up being something like 1 dark monster + 1 monster with x or less atk. Generic enough, but still needs a fusion effect to bring it out, so it will still be mainly a card used in fusion decks.

Dread Kaiser
13th May 2016, 05:41 PM
It shouldn't be too broken, and starve venom should be relatively generic. Most xyz decks can user dark rebellion and most synchro decks can user clear wing. Odd-eyes can be put in mousy pendulum decks but it's usually used as a searcher at best.
I'm thinking starve venom will end up being something like 1 dark monster + 1 monster with x or less atk. Generic enough, but still needs a fusion effect to bring it out, so it will still be mainly a card used in fusion decks.

I'm still thinking there is more then 1 Fusion Dragon...

ScionStorm
13th May 2016, 06:05 PM
I'm still thinking there is more then 1 Fusion Dragon...

Of course there will be/is. We went from Clear to Crystal with Synchro Dragon and from Rebellion to Requiem with Xyz Dragon.

Dread Kaiser
13th May 2016, 06:38 PM
Of course there will be/is. We went from Clear to Crystal with Synchro Dragon and from Rebellion to Requiem with Xyz Dragon.

No, I mean more then 1 Fusion dragon. as in multiple forms depending on what is fused, not an upgrade.


One theory I had on it: there is more than one Fusion Dragon (Think Rune and Beast Eyes are both Pendulum dragons, just with either no common material or Poly is more important than normal). Yuri can fuse multiple things and they become the Fusion Dragon. the fact that starve venom is so vastly different than its siloetted form kinda hints at this too.


Nope. think Original Elemental HERO's. none of the HERO fusions had a base form and you got a different result for fusing different combinations of HERO's. likewise I think Yuri would get a different Dragon everytime he fused something.

So think Original HERO's + Yagumo's Blank Numbers

I also think "Polymerization" is going to be important somehow, it'd be the closest thing to a base (this is a Dragon representing Fusion after all).
and most likely a 25K "true" (or rather less fucked up then Yuri's) version that Yuya would eventually get.

You were there when I discussed it

ScionStorm
13th May 2016, 06:50 PM
Oh, that. I had forgotten about that. My mind was on upgrades after seeing Requiem. I guess that is possible. I think we really need a clear duel with Yuri before we can move any further in speculating what direction they are going with his Dragon let alone his deck for that matter.

Sanokal
13th May 2016, 07:54 PM
Honestly, I've been thinking that it's one plant-type monster and a DARK monster, but there's no guarantee that it'll be generic. It has a very The Last of These is Not Like the Others thing going on with it.

ScionStorm
13th May 2016, 08:04 PM
Requiring a Plant-Type monster seems way too specific a material for this card. None of the other Dimension Dragons was that locked into their owner's deck. If anything it will probably require attribute- not specific type. Or a different stat. DRXD doesn't even require anything beyond level fours. CWSD again only requires tuner and total levels. Maybe SVFD will require 2 monsters with a total ATK amount or something.


No, I mean more then 1 Fusion dragon. as in multiple forms depending on what is fused, not an upgrade.


I just had an idea. What if it were like Neos. Only SVFD being an already fusion version of Neos and it can additionally fuse with other monsters for a variety of attribute based second forms.

Dyson Sphere
13th May 2016, 08:39 PM
ok lets go over the popular theories. theres 2 dark monsters, 2 monsters with the same type, 1 or both monsters being lvl 5+, and then theres the super generic any 2 monsters, honestly any of these could be right we'll just have to see but for sure super poly can become a powerful staple

LolsterXD97
13th May 2016, 08:40 PM
Requiring a Plant-Type monster seems way too specific a material for this card. None of the other Dimension Dragons was that locked into their owner's deck. If anything it will probably require attribute- not specific type. Or a different stat. DRXD doesn't even require anything beyond level fours. CWSD again only requires tuner and total levels. Maybe SVFD will require 2 monsters with a total ATK amount or something.



I just had an idea. What if it were like Neos. Only SVFD being an already fusion version of Neos and it can additionally fuse with other monsters for a variety of attribute based second forms.

That would be a neat reference.

ScionStorm
14th May 2016, 09:23 AM
Has anyone given the thought that if we do get Red-Eyes support in this set it might come from the anime possibly having Asuka's brother appear as a brainwashed Academia Red-Eyes Fusion duelist?

Sanokal
14th May 2016, 11:03 AM
Has anyone given the thought that if we do get Red-Eyes support in this set it might come from the anime possibly having Asuka's brother appear as a brainwashed Academia Red-Eyes Fusion duelist?

Mmm, I'm not sure. They usually announce the previous characters that show up, but it might be possible.

ScionStorm
14th May 2016, 11:07 AM
Mmm, I'm not sure. They usually announce the previous characters that show up, but it might be possible.

Well, Kaito's family got mentioned. And Fubuki was kind of a big part of Asuka's story in the first season of GX so not at least explaining what happened to her brother would be weird here. They could just be holding back announcement to not spoil a plot point. There were no serious spoiled plot points when they revealed Asuka, Edo and Kaito initially. None of them really had anything to do with one another. If he IS alive, having her Arc-V story be rescuing her brother from Academia brainwashing would be the best character arc for her. And having him use a Red-Eyes Fusion build would please The Archfiend of Konami.

Indytotof
16th May 2016, 10:02 AM
The answer of the question: "Did that list of archetype that supposedly recieve new support in Invasion of Venom is true ?" will certainly be given to us tomorrow/Wednesday guys !

PS: sorry for bad english. It is not my mother language.

Destiny91
16th May 2016, 02:59 PM
I guess the info that will most likely be leaked is:

-Dark Requiem Xyz Dragon IRL Effect.
-New Pendulum Archetype (Synchro or Xyz)
-Legacy? I don't think so.
-Any performapal cards.
-Support for archetypes of previous sets.
-Starve Venom?

LolsterXD97
16th May 2016, 09:14 PM
They will probably reveal in V-Jump anything released in the Collector's Pack (for cross promotion sake) plus new themes, that means:
-Performapals.
-Raidraptors (Retrofit Lanius).
-Cyber Angels (Vishnu).
-Ciphers (Twin Raptor and Mirror Knight).
-Cardians (Inoshikacho Cardians + Chokoikoi).

And outside of Collector's Pack stuff:
-Dark Requiem Xyz Dragon and Phantom Knights' Launch (because they need a big seller besides Starve Venom).
-Superheavy Samurai (Soul Chuusai and Sarutobi).
-Venoms (including SVFD).

Erickdsl
16th May 2016, 09:34 PM
And blackwings, gotta have some blackwing support.

ScionStorm
16th May 2016, 09:46 PM
They will probably reveal in V-Jump anything released in the Collector's Pack (for cross promotion sake) plus new themes, that means:
-Performapals.
-Raidraptors (Retrofit Lanius).
-Cyber Angels (Vishnu).
-Ciphers (Twin Raptor and Mirror Knight).
-Cardians (Inoshikacho Cardians + Chokoikoi).
-Dark Requiem Xyz Dragon and Phantom Knights' Launch (because they need a big seller besides Starve Venom).
-Neo New Venoms.

Forgetting the new Superheavy?

And no Amazoness?

Actually I'm hoping we get Earthbounds either in this set or the DARK SP

LolsterXD97
16th May 2016, 09:47 PM
Forgetting the new Superheavy?

And no Amazoness?

Actually I'm hoping we get Earthbounds either in this set or the DARK SP

I was talking about stuff released in the Collector's Pack.

ScionStorm
16th May 2016, 10:16 PM
Requiem, Launch and Venoms weren't in collectors pack.

LolsterXD97
16th May 2016, 10:24 PM
Requiem, Launch and Venoms weren't in collectors pack.

I just said these things could be in V Jump too. They just got in the middle of the list (I'll edit it right now).

P.S.: I didn't put Amazoness in the list, because there is no way to be sure if they will be released (remember the La Jinn retrain, Earthbounds and Ancient Gear?).

Indytotof
17th May 2016, 03:34 PM
Now, I'm just waiting for the Weekly Jump. Maybe here we will have the rumored support for CORE archetypes INOV is supposed to have.

Pretty happy by this V-Jump.

King
17th May 2016, 03:55 PM
Is the booster Color Green like The Duelist Advent? or my eyes are getting bad?

Indytotof
17th May 2016, 03:58 PM
Is the booster Color Green like The Duelist Advent? or my eyes are getting bad?

It's dark green.

LolsterXD97
18th May 2016, 01:39 AM
Time to guess the Anime slots:
INOV-JP001 Performapal Whim Witch
INOV-JP002 Descend Dragon Magician
INOV-JP003 Performapal Allcover Hippo
INOV-JP004 Performapal Seal Eel
INOV-JP005 Performapal Chain Giraffe
INOV-JP009 Superheavy Samurai Soul Chuusai
INOV-JP012 Raidraptor - Retrofit Lanius
INOV-JP013 Cardian - Sakura ni Maku
INOV-JP014 Cardian - Momiji ni Shika
INOV-JP015 Cardian - Hagi ni Inoshishi
INOV-JP016 Cardian - Botan ni Cho
INOV-JP037 Cyber Angel - Vishnu
INOV-JP042 Superheavy Samurai Sarurobi
INOV-JP044 Assault Blackwing - Kuniyoshi the Fogbow
INOV-JP045 Assault Blackwing - Kunisada the Fogbow
INOV-JP046 Assault Blackwing - Kunifusa the Fogbow
INOV-JP047 Assault Blackwing - Kunasagi the Gathering Storm
INOV-JP048 Goyo Catapult
INOV-JP071 Fuda Aratame

If Konami plans to release the Chojiro vs Yuzu Cardian support here, I predict the numbers would be like this:
INOV-JP044 Cardian - Gokou
INOV-JP057 Card Regeneration
INOV-JP058 Card Preparation
INOV-JP059 Choshobu

Otherwise they would go in the next set, because completing the Yuya vs Chojiro cards first would be enough for this set tbh.

ScionStorm
18th May 2016, 11:49 AM
Time to guess the Anime slots:
INOV-JP001 Performapal Whim Witch
INOV-JP002 Descend Dragon Magician
INOV-JP003 Performapal Allcover Hippo
INOV-JP004 Performapal Seal Eel
INOV-JP005 Performapal Chain Giraffe
INOV-JP009 Superheavy Samurai Soul Chuusai OR Raidraptor - Retrofit Lanius
INOV-JP012 Superheavy Samurai Soul Chuusai OR Raidraptor - Retrofit Lanius
INOV-JP013 Cardian - Sakura ni Maku
INOV-JP014 Cardian - Momiji ni Shika
INOV-JP015 Cardian - Hagi ni Inoshishi
INOV-JP016 Cardian - Botan ni Cho
INOV-JP037 Cyber Angel - Vishnu
INOV-JP042 Superheavy Samurai Sarurobi
INOV-JP044 Cardian - Gokou

Konami might include a GO 10 point version of Sakura in the Anime spaces. The Fogbows and Kusanagi might be ubicated after Gokou.

I think they should hold off on Gokou until the next set. There's still backrow support that needs releasing.

So I'm going throw in for synchros: Goyo Catapult, the 3 Fogbows and Kusanagi.

And depending on what happens in the next few episodes, maybe we get an Amazoness fusion monster as well.

Dyson Sphere
18th May 2016, 07:50 PM
lets hope we get some spell or trap support for predator plants and make them actually playable

LolsterXD97
18th May 2016, 08:41 PM
I think they should hold off on Gokou until the next set. There's still backrow support that needs releasing.

So I'm going throw in for synchros: Goyo Catapult, the 3 Fogbows and Kusanagi.

And depending on what happens in the next few episodes, maybe we get an Amazoness fusion monster as well.

Well, this is just a wild guess, they might save the Chojiro vs Yuzu cards for the next set.

- - - Updated - - -


lets hope we get some spell or trap support for predator plants and make them actually playable

Expect Traps, Lanch and Hanazumi being together in the slots blocks any possibility of a Yuri Spell.

Yuuri
18th May 2016, 10:27 PM
lets hope we get some spell or trap support for predator plants and make them actually playable

We're pretty much guaranteed to get Violet Flash. Though it's not a Predator Plant support card, it can still be used in the deck.

Also, we have 4 monsters revealed, if I recall correctly. We're bound to get a few more monsters now, and maybe some Spell/Trap cards. Seeing as how the archetype is named "Predator Plant," I would expect Quick-Play Spells and Trap Cards.

Sanokal
18th May 2016, 10:37 PM
Methinks we won't get many S/Ts in this set though, just based on what'll probably happen next week.

ScionStorm
18th May 2016, 10:37 PM
Amazing Pendulum's number is blurry. It does look vaguely like 53. But if it turns out to actually be 52 then at least Violet Crystal can come out.


We're pretty much guaranteed to get Violet Flash. Though it's not a Predator Plant support card, it can still be used in the deck.

Also, we have 4 monsters revealed, if I recall correctly. We're bound to get a few more monsters now, and maybe some Spell/Trap cards. Seeing as how the archetype is named "Predator Plant," I would expect Quick-Play Spells and Trap Cards.

But not in this set. Pretty much no more room for such things. You'll have to wait until the fall set towards the end of the year for stuff like that.

Dyson Sphere
19th May 2016, 12:17 AM
We're pretty much guaranteed to get Violet Flash. Though it's not a Predator Plant support card, it can still be used in the deck.

Also, we have 4 monsters revealed, if I recall correctly. We're bound to get a few more monsters now, and maybe some Spell/Trap cards. Seeing as how the archetype is named "Predator Plant," I would expect Quick-Play Spells and Trap Cards.

hmm too bad we wont get the predator plant fusion (chimera rafflesia) for a while, most likely

ScionStorm
19th May 2016, 12:32 AM
hmm too bad we wont get the predator plant fusion (chimera rafflesia) for a while, most likely

It wouldn't surprise me if this year's Premium Pack came with Rafflessia fusion, 1 PK Xyz and 1 Hyper Speedroid Synchro.

Hope in the Interstice
19th May 2016, 12:46 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if this year's Premium Pack came with Rafflessia fusion, 1 PK Xyz and 1 Hyper Speedroid Synchro.
Hyper what now?

Dread Kaiser
19th May 2016, 12:58 AM
Hyper what now?

alternate name for the Hispeedroids, before their TCG names

ScionStorm
19th May 2016, 12:59 AM
Hyper what now?

Hyper Speedroids. TCG dub- Hi-Speedroid. Which is stupid. Vehicroids got "Super Vehicroids" which is why the Sychros were called "Hyper Speedroids". But Konami dub team as usual...

Hope in the Interstice
19th May 2016, 01:02 AM
Hyper Speedroids. TCG dub- Hi-Speedroid. Which is stupid. Vehicroids got "Super Vehicroids" which is why the Sychros were called "Hyper Speedroids". But Konami dub team as usual...
But... the OCG went with Hi-Speedroid.

King
19th May 2016, 01:03 AM
I hope to see cousins of Majespecters on this set, and i hope they can be so good as Majespecters.

ScionStorm
19th May 2016, 01:05 AM
I'm remembering it wrong then. In that case, I take that back.

Okay, my bad. I went looking and found that this is where the "Hyperspeedroid" thing actually came from. The jump promo poll the first introduced the name for Kendama.
http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=1211054

I wish they had gone with Hyperspeedroid permanently. Works so much better with the major archetype of Roids.

Dyson Sphere
19th May 2016, 01:09 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if this year's Premium Pack came with Rafflessia fusion, 1 PK Xyz and 1 Hyper Speedroid Synchro.

thats still a while

ScionStorm
19th May 2016, 01:12 AM
thats still a while

"A while" is vague. Next Premium Pack is more specific.

SynjoDeonecros
20th May 2016, 01:22 AM
I'm hoping for Barrett's Sentinels/Beastborgs in this set. We're assuming it covers cards through the last part of the Synchro Dimension arc, which has that duel with Barrett and Yuya, the duel with the Earthbound Servants, etc, so it's possible.

King
20th May 2016, 02:02 AM
Sergey cards might happen, since it is centered in a theme. But Barret i don't think so the Sentinels and Beastborgs are so... "Random", unless the card designers decide to turn into generic Beast-Warrior Support,

ScionStorm
20th May 2016, 02:25 AM
Sergey cards might happen, since it is centered in a theme. But Barret i don't think so the Sentinels and Beastborgs are so... "Random", unless the card designers decide to turn into generic Beast-Warrior Support,

No way there is enough room to fit Earthbounds in this set. If they go anywhere in the near future it will be in the DARK SP. The only competition it has for that slot is Abyss Actors. If Konami announces the next SP to be a Pendulum SP then Sergey is free to premier in Destiny Soldiers DARK SP.

King
20th May 2016, 02:43 AM
No way there is enough room to fit Earthbounds in this set. If they go anywhere in the near future it will be in the DARK SP. The only competition it has for that slot is Abyss Actors. If Konami announces the next SP to be a Pendulum SP then Sergey is free to premier in Destiny Soldiers DARK SP.

Anyway, at the end of the day, i can't see space for both in any set, if somehow they would be printed, i guess it will be in the next Collectors Pack.

ScionStorm
20th May 2016, 03:08 AM
Anyway, at the end of the day, i can't see space for both in any set, if somehow they would be printed, i guess it will be in the next Collectors Pack.

They'd have more space in the SP than in a collector pack.

LolsterXD97
20th May 2016, 03:14 AM
The card I wish the most to be here is Wings of the Supreme King, Yami Yuya always pulls the coolest cards (artwork and effect-wise).

SynjoDeonecros
20th May 2016, 06:10 PM
Well, right now, Barrett has 2 new main deck monsters, 2 new Fusions, and a series of new spells and traps. They could cut the amount of spells and traps in half for later release, and just go for what we first saw him have. I dunno, I just want to dig out my Barbaros Urs and build a deck that can utilize them effectively, again...

Yuuri
20th May 2016, 10:15 PM
But not in this set. Pretty much no more room for such things. You'll have to wait until the fall set towards the end of the year for stuff like that.

Well, yes. That's to be expected. Then again, there has only been 13 cards confirmed so far, so who knows what will happen.


I hope to see cousins of Majespecters on this set, and i hope they can be so good as Majespecters.

How about no? The Majespecters are flatout annoying to face as it is.


Sergey cards might happen, since it is centered in a theme. But Barret i don't think so the Sentinels and Beastborgs are so... "Random", unless the card designers decide to turn into generic Beast-Warrior Support,

As much I would love to see more Earthbound support, I doubt highly that Sergey's cards will be in this pack. Like others have mentioned, there simply isn't enough room in this pack to throw them in.

Now watch as Konami milks the Predator Plants simply because they have confirmed Starve Venom...

SynjoDeonecros
20th May 2016, 10:59 PM
Honestly, I think they can drop Beast-Borg Crest of Honor, combine Crest of Sword and Crest of Shield into one, and release it with a nerfed version of Crimson Chain and Iron Chain, along with Beastborg Fusion, and that would satisfy those of us who want Barrett's cards.

ScionStorm
20th May 2016, 11:29 PM
No way there is enough room to fit Earthbounds in this set. If they go anywhere in the near future it will be in the DARK SP. The only competition it has for that slot is Abyss Actors. If Konami announces the next SP to be a Pendulum SP then Sergey is free to premier in Destiny Soldiers DARK SP.

Alternatively, the best thing they could (but probably won't) do now that Predator Plants are being introduced in INOV is drop the third, game-original, DARK archetype from Destiny Soldiers (We really don't need any new ones right now) and instead load the set with 3 anime archetypes begging to finally come out: Abyss Actors, Earthbounds, and of course Destiny HEROs.

That could leave open the second SP of the year for a lot of different paths. My wish would be an EARTH attribute set featuring Cookpals, Ancient Gears and something else. Amazoness- in the event they don't show up in INOV.

Then maybe there'd be room for things like Beastborgs and BEE-Force and CCC in future main sets. Or release CCC under the EARTH SP banner with only the EARTH Extra Deck monsters and then stick Water Sword in the next Main Set.

Baroque
21st May 2016, 03:17 AM
How about no? The Majespecters are flatout annoying to face as it is.
Well, let's look at how Metalfoes operate compared to Igknights; on the surface, one can easily say one's a 'better' version of the other, but in reality it's just a similar concept (FIRE, acquires resources by destroying your own cards) given a new twist (Fusion-focused Psychic-types, rather than rather-unfocused Warrior-types).

If we saw Majespecter-alikes in this pack the way we saw the Metalfoes as Igknight-alikes, I have a distinct impression that they'd probably take one of the mechanic ideas (either being usable as reusable Tributes, or being target-/pop-proofed, one or the other) and put a new spin on it (like how Metalfoes took the Igknights' "pop scales for fetch" effect and turned it into "pop 1 card to pull 1 backrow"); having antitargeting/destroyproofing seems like it'd be hard to put a twist on, so I reckon that if we did get a set of Majespecter-alikes, they'd probably have something to do with being able to be reusable materials instead.

King
21st May 2016, 04:41 AM
What it will be done to Synchros ? They made decent Step in The Dark Illusion.

Sanokal
21st May 2016, 04:52 AM
Depends how much of the tail end of season two we get. Plus probably Sarutobi.

ScionStorm
21st May 2016, 05:05 AM
SHS Ninja Sarutobi most likely. Cardian Inoshikacho confirmed. Hoping Goyo Catapult. Expecting Blackwings because Blackwings. Maybe after this set they can look into Bee Force as there likely won't be much Synchro summoning in a the anime before the next set is released.

I'd like to see The Man synchro one more new SHS before the end of the year.

Wonder if we''ll find out Rin's deck before the end of the year. Not even seeing Rin or Ruri's decks yet is another reason I think (and hope) this series goes to a fourth season.

King
21st May 2016, 05:05 AM
Im betting more on the non-anime Synchros, since the only Synchro user present on the arc is Gongezaka.

Sanokal
21st May 2016, 06:22 AM
Im betting more on the non-anime Synchros, since the only Synchro user present on the arc is Gongezaka.

Don't forget Yugo.

ScionStorm
21st May 2016, 06:36 AM
Don't forget Yugo.

So far Yugo is awol. No one has seen hide nor hair nor heard a peep about where he is and what he is up to.

Sanokal
21st May 2016, 06:58 AM
He's in the opening. I wouldn't put it past him to pull another Big Damn Heroes moment next ep.

Hope in the Interstice
21st May 2016, 07:45 AM
He's in the opening. I wouldn't put it past him to pull another Big Damn Heroes moment next ep.
Nah, that implies the kids will be saved. Their fates are most certainly sealed.

Indytotof
21st May 2016, 07:50 AM
Nah, that implies the kids will be saved. Their fates are most certainly sealed.

Sealed into cards ?

Hope in the Interstice
21st May 2016, 07:57 AM
Sealed into cards ?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/012/132/thatsthejoke.jpg

Sanokal
21st May 2016, 08:34 AM
He could always show up just in time to save Zuzu and not them.
Let's be realistic, unless either party teleports, You Show is boned.

SynjoDeonecros
21st May 2016, 07:22 PM
I would like some more generic Normal or Effect Pendulum support. Or, hopefully, some recent legacy support, like for Graydles, Majespecters, or Yosenju.

ScionStorm
21st May 2016, 07:36 PM
You want to see Majespecter support?

SynjoDeonecros
21st May 2016, 08:00 PM
You want to see Majespecter support?

My boyfriend would like to, since he's been struggling to get the cards for a Majespecter deck...

King
21st May 2016, 11:58 PM
I would love to get Majespecters Support too... I hope the new Pendulum Archetype get along with them.

ScionStorm
22nd May 2016, 12:35 AM
I would rather get Aromages.

SynjoDeonecros
22nd May 2016, 01:39 AM
Those would be okay, too, as well as Graydles. Something to make them stand on their own instead of having to be paired up with Kaiju to be viable...

Destiny91
22nd May 2016, 05:06 AM
Looking at the spaces for each Extra deck type, I guess this Set's new Pendulum archetype will be WIND Synchro. So the following Set will be WATER Xyz. Makes sense and a WIND archetype that supports Synchro will have good synergy with Speedroids, so I hope it happens.
I guess the slots will be
43 - Inoshikacho
44 - Gokou
45 - Sarutobi
46 - Synchro from the Pendulum archetype OR a Hi-Speedroid (if Yugo duels before the Set comes out)
47 - Synchro from the Pendulum archetype
48 - Synchro from the Pendulum archetype OR a generic Synchro monster

Also, has anyone noticed that all revealed cards from Invasion or Venom up till now are only Anime cards?
We still have no info about original cards for this set.

Hope in the Interstice
22nd May 2016, 05:16 AM
Also, has anyone noticed that all revealed cards from Invasion or Venom up till now are only Anime cards?
We still have no info about original cards for this set.
That tends to happen with each V Jump; you get game originals in one and anime in the other. Or legacy. Or one and the other.

ScionStorm
22nd May 2016, 05:19 AM
Sarutobi would come before the Cardian. We''re still down by 1 Goyo and I'm hoping it's here. Can't ignore the Blackwings. Konami loves to make us eat Crow. Probably only get 1 new Synchro monster. It would be stupid of them to dump both Cardian Synchro monsters in the same set given all the support cards that still need to come out.

Destiny91
22nd May 2016, 06:41 PM
Sarutobi would come before the Cardian. We''re still down by 1 Goyo and I'm hoping it's here. Can't ignore the Blackwings. Konami loves to make us eat Crow. Probably only get 1 new Synchro monster. It would be stupid of them to dump both Cardian Synchro monsters in the same set given all the support cards that still need to come out.

All the Cardians appeared before Sarutobi.
Well, if Yugo ever duels before this Set comes out, I hope we finally get Speed Turn and/or a Dice Colosseum of Destiny that doesn't rely on luck.

ScionStorm
22nd May 2016, 06:45 PM
All the Cardians appeared before Sarutobi.
Well, if Yugo ever duels before this Set comes out, I hope we finally get Speed Turn and/or a Dice Colosseum of Destiny that doesn't rely on luck.

The Man is main supporting character. He and Yuzu usually always get priority over recurring guest characters. Unless the character is a Dimensional Yu. And even then, as a main supporting character he sometimes gets priority over even them.

If there are no more promo surprises and it holds the 5 slots above Predator Plants are taken up by Yuya then 009 will probably be SHS Soul Chusai. If for some reason Yuya winds up only needing 4 slots then Soul Chusai could be 005 and 009 would go to the new RR.

Brightshine Stardust
23rd May 2016, 04:35 AM
a Dice Colosseum of Destiny that doesn't rely on luck.

.....it's a card called "Dice Colosseum of Destiny". And you ask it to be reliable? :p

Baroque
23rd May 2016, 10:54 AM
Konami loves to make us eat Crow.
Phrasing.


Probably only get 1 new Synchro monster. It would be stupid of them to dump both Cardian Synchro monsters in the same set given all the support cards that still need to come out.
Y'never know; they might toss both of them out now so that the deck has more options for Synchro Summoning. Once you get past the problem that is one's own luck (shitty as it is in my case), the next issues Cardians seem to face (from my experience) are that unless you were particularly lucky that turn and didn't need to Special Summon a single base Cardian by their own effect (or activate a Spell that would impose a limit similar to theirs), you're still somewhat stuck making Ameshikou . . . and that, as far as your options go, you therefore have a rather solid ATK ceiling that requires some teched shenanigans to overcome.

However nerfed his effects might end up being, Gokou gives us a very nice answer to the ATK ceiling issue, and both it and Inoshikacho provide useful effects atop that.

ScionStorm
23rd May 2016, 11:10 AM
Phrasing.


Y'never know; they might toss both of them out now so that the deck has more options for Synchro Summoning. Once you get past the problem that is one's own luck (shitty as it is in my case), the next issues Cardians seem to face (from my experience) are that unless you were particularly lucky that turn and didn't need to Special Summon a single base Cardian by their own effect (or activate a Spell that would impose a limit similar to theirs), you're still somewhat stuck making Ameshikou . . . and that, as far as your options go, you therefore have a rather solid ATK ceiling that requires some teched shenanigans to overcome.

However nerfed his effects might end up being, Gokou gives us a very nice answer to the ATK ceiling issue, and both it and Inoshikacho provide useful effects atop that.

Of course they do, but Konami would get more out of them if they spaced them out between this set and the next. Besides, we haven't even seen what the OCG version of his last 4 main deck monsters will be like.

King
24th May 2016, 01:21 AM
Judging by the Pattern of the Previously released Boosters, this one doesn't seem to include Nostalgia Support, all of their names have references of the Nostalgia Support included.

LolsterXD97
24th May 2016, 01:30 AM
Judging by the Pattern of the Previously released Boosters, this one doesn't seem to include Nostalgia Support, all of their names have references of the Nostalgia Support included.

We will see next V-Jump if we are going to have nostalgia or not.

Sanokal
24th May 2016, 01:34 AM
Could be Venom.

King
24th May 2016, 01:35 AM
Could be Venom.

What is the Percetage of People who gives a Fuck about Venom? Konami won't make a dumb move like that, unless they powercreep them.

ScionStorm
24th May 2016, 01:35 AM
Judging by the Pattern of the Previously released Boosters, this one doesn't seem to include Nostalgia Support, all of their names have references of the Nostalgia Support included.

What names are you talking about?

I'm half expecting Silent support what with the DP and then the Silent Paladin promo. Hopefully the main set support will remember this started out as a LV series.

And we still need the MoBC retrain.

King
24th May 2016, 01:41 AM
What names are you talking about?

I'm half expecting Silent support what with the DP and then the Silent Paladin promo. Hopefully the main set support will remember this started out as a LV series.

And we still need the MoBC retrain.

Dimension of Chaos: Chaos Soldier Support(AKA Black Luster Soldier)
Shining Victories: Blue-Eyes Support
The Dark Illusion: Dark Magican Support

ScionStorm
24th May 2016, 01:55 AM
Dimension of Chaos: Chaos Soldier Support(AKA Black Luster Soldier)
Shining Victories: Blue-Eyes Support
The Dark Illusion: Dark Magican Support

And then we have Breakers of Shadow and Clash of Rebellions.

King
24th May 2016, 02:09 AM
And then we have Breakers of Shadow and Clash of Rebellions.

About Clash of Rebellons, i don't know if the intention was to "surprise" us with Nostalgia Support. Breakers of Shadow indeed don't follow this pattern, the name don't even fit the current events of the Anime in that time.

Sanokal
24th May 2016, 02:40 AM
What is the Percetage of People who gives a Fuck about Venom? Konami won't make a dumb move like that, unless they powercreep them.

More than you think. (Resists urge to add derogatory term at the end).

King
24th May 2016, 02:52 AM
More than you think. (Resists urge to add derogatory term at the end).

Oh Please. add derogatory terms.

ScionStorm
24th May 2016, 02:54 AM
Enough. Go sit in the time out corners. Both of you.

Sanokal
24th May 2016, 03:44 AM
Enough. Go sit in the time out corners. Both of you.

Yes sir. (Hangs his head in embarrassment and slinks away appropriately)

EmperorShun
24th May 2016, 10:28 AM
http://i.imgur.com/YxJQ2cC.jpg

According to this, we're getting support for

Yang Zing
Qliphort
Red-Eyes
Aromage
???
PSY-Frame
Metalphosis

Last one was obvious but rejoice all the same.

So this is true after all...

Indytotof
24th May 2016, 10:30 AM
So this is true after all...

For PSY-Frame at least.

EmperorShun
24th May 2016, 11:02 AM
For PSY-Frame at least.

You think Konami will troll us?

Indytotof
24th May 2016, 11:06 AM
You think Konami will troll us?

It will not be the first time.

King
24th May 2016, 11:17 AM
I Liked the Psyframe Support, its totally welcome for me. But for the other CORE Archetypes mentioned, they all need to go hell and save space for better cards.

Indytotof
24th May 2016, 11:22 AM
I Liked the Psyframe Support, its totally welcome for me. But for the other CORE Archetypes mentioned, they all need to go hell and save space for better cards.

inb4 the CORE support are actually extremely good thus not wasting space for other cards.

LolsterXD97
24th May 2016, 11:22 AM
I expect all the rumoured Archetypes to have only 1 new card a la Buster Blader and Shiranui in The Dark Illusion.

Indytotof
24th May 2016, 11:23 AM
I expect all the rumoured Archetypes to have only 1 new card a la Buster Blader and Shiranui in The Dark Illusion.

Let's hope those cards will be Shiranui Sage-good.

King
24th May 2016, 11:28 AM
Let's hope those cards will be Shiranui Sage-good.

Aromage is a Lost cause.

Indytotof
24th May 2016, 11:34 AM
Aromage is a Lost cause.

I don't think so. They have a lot of potential.

ScionStorm
24th May 2016, 04:15 PM
Aromage is a Lost cause.

Aside from Red-Eyes, Aromage is the only one on the list that has me interested.

SynjoDeonecros
24th May 2016, 10:27 PM
I'm curious about the ???. What could it be? Graydles, Majespecters, Igknights, what?

Sanokal
24th May 2016, 10:32 PM
I'm curious about the ???. What could it be? Graydles, Majespecters, Igknights, what?

Probably Graydles out of those three, seeing as the legacy support doesn't seem to be focused on the Dracos thus far. I could be wrong of course.

DelCtrl
24th May 2016, 10:37 PM
I would love more Red-Eyes support, but it's not gonna happen. The list had various archetypes, like it was just shooting in the dark, and it happens to have hit something. I wouldn't count on any of those archetypes being in INOV.

Dread Kaiser
24th May 2016, 11:15 PM
I would love more Red-Eyes support, but it's not gonna happen. The list had various archetypes, like it was just shooting in the dark, and it happens to have hit something. I wouldn't count on any of those archetypes being in INOV.

you say that after PSYFrames of all things just got support. a one set archetype (til now) with no Anime nostalgia or DT Story, didn't desperately need it and to my knowledge isn't particularly popular

but Red-eyes can't? an archetype that has both Anime Nostalgia to sell and 2 perfect cards to retrain (Meteor Dragon and Meteor Black)

Baconator
25th May 2016, 12:05 AM
Aromage is a Lost cause.

It wouldn't be the first time Konami makes a card that carries a deck. *cough* spellbook of judgement *cough*

LolsterXD97
25th May 2016, 01:31 AM
If Aromages are here, I just wish a DARK one so Predator Plants can have more decent DARK Plant support.

ScionStorm
25th May 2016, 02:55 AM
So here's hoping the fusions in this pack are SVFD, Amazoness Empress, Amazoness Liger and Meteor Black Flame Dragon. I don't really think we are going to get a Predator Plant fusion in this set.

SynjoDeonecros
25th May 2016, 03:43 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a Predator Plant fusion for the archetype.

Volteccer
25th May 2016, 05:52 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a Predator Plant fusion for the archetype.

There's one in the manga, Predator Plants Chimera Rafflesia. The question is when it's getting printed.

ScionStorm
25th May 2016, 07:01 PM
There's one in the manga, Predator Plants Chimera Rafflesia. The question is when it's getting printed.

They still haven't announced the Valuable Book Promos for this year.

Sanokal
25th May 2016, 09:22 PM
They still haven't announced the Valuable Book Promos for this year.

Regardless, it probably won't be in the OCG version of this pack.

ScionStorm
26th May 2016, 09:28 AM
Regardless, it probably won't be in the OCG version of this pack.

When have we gotten Manga-exclusive cards in a main set booster? Last one I can remember is Shattered Axe.

Sanokal
26th May 2016, 09:41 AM
When have we gotten Manga-exclusive cards in a main set booster? Last one I can remember is Shattered Axe.

Heck if I know, though they were rather funny with DM manga cards like that if I remember rightly.

Volteccer
26th May 2016, 12:07 PM
Heck if I know, though they were rather funny with DM manga cards like that if I remember rightly.

Yeah, some of the cards from R wound up in sets in the 5D's era, I think.

ScionStorm
26th May 2016, 12:22 PM
Yeah, some of the cards from R wound up in sets in the 5D's era, I think.

They did? Which cards were those?

Volteccer
26th May 2016, 06:07 PM
They did? Which cards were those?

That was from my vague memories, and it turns out to not be correct. Some of them were in the TCG version (like Zeta Rerutiant), but I think they wre previously all from OCG Premium packs.

Baroque
26th May 2016, 07:48 PM
When have we gotten Manga-exclusive cards in a main set booster? Last one I can remember is Shattered Axe.
They've happened now and again as OCG imports that I can recall (Tualatin in Light of Destruction, Machine Lord Ur in Crossroads of Chaos, Puppet King and Zeta Reticulant in Crimson Crisis, etc.), but, uh, congratulations for finding one that made its OCG debut in a main set?

A small light of hope has been rekindled, but for how long remains to be seen.

EDIT: Heck, best-worst case scenario, the Rafflesia ends up in a side-pack or as a promo in Japan but gets ported to the TCG in an import slot in INOV? : V

SynjoDeonecros
26th May 2016, 10:32 PM
Still curious what the mystery archetype that's going to get support is. The anticipation is driving me mad...

ScionStorm
26th May 2016, 11:11 PM
They've happened now and again as OCG imports that I can recall (Tualatin in Light of Destruction, Machine Lord Ur in Crossroads of Chaos, Puppet King and Zeta Reticulant in Crimson Crisis, etc.), but, uh, congratulations for finding one that made its OCG debut in a main set?

A small light of hope has been rekindled, but for how long remains to be seen.

EDIT: Heck, best-worst case scenario, the Rafflesia ends up in a side-pack or as a promo in Japan but gets ported to the TCG in an import slot in INOV? : V

Since this is the OCG section and not TCG I was only talking about OCG main sets not TCG imports.

King
26th May 2016, 11:24 PM
Still curious what the mystery archetype that's going to get support is. The anticipation is driving me mad...

its Nekroz


please kill me!

SynjoDeonecros
27th May 2016, 02:19 AM
I hope not, there was a reason that the ban list nerfed them...

King
27th May 2016, 02:31 AM
Me too. I hope this "???" refers Super Quantum.

Baroque
27th May 2016, 07:39 AM
Since this is the OCG section and not TCG I was only talking about OCG main sets not TCG imports.
True, but you yourself still managed to name a manga card that ended up becoming a main set card, didn't you? So there's at least some hope.

ScionStorm
27th May 2016, 07:55 AM
True, but you yourself still managed to name a manga card that ended up becoming a main set card, didn't you? So there's at least some hope.

Yes I did. I named a card that was released FORTY-TWO sets ago. It was two sets after they reprinted the Poker Knights in Elemental Energy for the promo release of Arcana Knight Joker- which also has never happened again.

SynjoDeonecros
29th May 2016, 02:24 AM
So, we got confirmation about new Metalfoes and Aroma support, so there's a good chance that we'll be finding out what the other leaked support is, soon, including the mystery support.

Hope in the Interstice
29th May 2016, 02:53 AM
So, we got confirmation about new Metalfoes support
You mean PSY-Frame, right?

King
29th May 2016, 03:56 AM
I hope to see a Level 5 for Metalfoe, so i can exploit even more Ultimaya.

SynjoDeonecros
29th May 2016, 07:29 PM
Honestly, I'm hoping the mystery archetype getting support is Graydles, preferably a new level 3 monster and a level 11 Synchro, so I can separate my Graydle/Kaiju deck into two decks.

Indytotof
29th May 2016, 07:42 PM
Inb4 the mystery archetype is none other than Aromaseraphy (who will act like a sub-archetype of the "Aroma" archetype alongside the sub-archetype "Aromage") who will consist of Tuner monsters + a Synchro boss for the whole "Aroma" archetype.

Noir
29th May 2016, 09:01 PM
I hope to see a Level 5 for Metalfoe, so i can exploit even more Ultimaya.

You do realize unless that Level 5 is a non-Pendulum or the Level 5 Fusion, Ultimaya can't be used in Metalfosis?

King
29th May 2016, 09:36 PM
You do realize unless that Level 5 is a non-Pendulum or the Level 5 Fusion, Ultimaya can't be used in Metalfosis?

I took note of that, Ultimaya Summon is not a Normal Synchro Summon.

Baroque
29th May 2016, 10:03 PM
Honestly, I'm hoping the mystery archetype getting support is Graydles, preferably a new level 3 monster and a level 11 Synchro, so I can separate my Graydle/Kaiju deck into two decks.

The question there becomes 'what would a new Lv3 for that archetype do?'; after all, they have every type of destruction possible covered (destruction by battle on all three, by monster effect on Eagle, by Spell effect on Alligator, by Trap effect on Cobra), so either it'd have to retread some of those differently or it'd have to have an entirely different effect available.

SynjoDeonecros
29th May 2016, 11:11 PM
That is true. But we already have a decent level 5 Tuner, so... I honestly dunno...

Noir
30th May 2016, 01:24 AM
I took note of that, Ultimaya Summon is not a Normal Synchro Summon.

So...why did you want that Level 5 Metalfosis?

King
30th May 2016, 01:41 AM
So...why did you want that Level 5 Metalfosis?

I realized it after your post, it made me review Ultimaya Summoning Conditions.

Noir
30th May 2016, 03:50 AM
I realized it after your post, it made me review Ultimaya Summoning Conditions.

Ah, okay. *inserts random message so it can send*

Mofiz
30th May 2016, 08:23 PM
I realized it after your post, it made me review Ultimaya Summoning Conditions.

You are one of few people here, I expect some skill of. Since none of the OCG netdeckers seemed to notice how deadly Dragunity Knight Trident can be (kill 2 Spirit Dragons + 62 to make half of BE Extra useless or Dante + 2 BS to kill off BA), feel free and test it out. I would do it myself, but I can't touch anything related to cancer.
(Also it makes Metalphosis Combination even useful since you can immedietly send it to Grave after setting it to trigger Ultimaya)

King
31st May 2016, 02:15 AM
You are one of few people here, I expect some skill of. Since none of the OCG netdeckers seemed to notice how deadly Dragunity Knight Trident can be (kill 2 Spirit Dragons + 62 to make half of BE Extra useless or Dante + 2 BS to kill off BA), feel free and test it out. I would do it myself, but I can't touch anything related to cancer.
(Also it makes Metalphosis Combination even useful since you can immedietly send it to Grave after setting it to trigger Ultimaya)

That is why Trident's Price increased, i guess. I did a few tsting yet, sadly i could summon him only a small number of times, due the situation being more fit to Crystal Wing or Scarlight. But if you use Trident on the right ones, i am sure you will provide a harsh time to your opponent. Also the Spell/Trap pluses, was always welcome.

Yuuri
31st May 2016, 05:15 AM
Ahem.

Considering the supposed multi-archetype support leak is basically confirmed at this point, I'll be expecting to see the Red-Eyes support soon.

Unfortunately, it seems as though fate conspires against me quite often, so the "support" will probably suck or have some arbitrary restriction slapped onto it like Red-Eyes Fusion.

ScionStorm
31st May 2016, 06:12 AM
Ahem.

Considering the supposed multi-archetype support leak is basically confirmed at this point, I'll be expecting to see the Red-Eyes support soon.

Unfortunately, it seems as though fate conspires against me quite often, so the "support" will probably suck or have some arbitrary restriction slapped onto it like Red-Eyes Fusion.

Really hoping the support is Red-Eyes Meteor Dragon and Meteor Black Flare Dragon.

Hope in the Interstice
31st May 2016, 06:26 AM
Really hoping the support is Red-Eyes Meteor Dragon and Meteor Black Flare Dragon.
I think they're more in need of a Spell or Trap that smooths out the engine more.

ScionStorm
31st May 2016, 06:39 AM
I think they're more in need of a Spell or Trap that smooths out the engine more.

Doesn't matter. Those cards should have come out the first time around. I don't want to wait any longer.
All I want out of DM legacy support this set is Red-Eyes Meteor Dragon, Meteor Black Flare Dragon (another Red-Eyes Fusion target) and a retrain of Magician of Black Chaos with it's own new Ritual spell.

Mofiz
31st May 2016, 07:25 AM
That is why Trident's Price increased, i guess. I did a few tsting yet, sadly i could summon him only a small number of times, due the situation being more fit to Crystal Wing or Scarlight. But if you use Trident on the right ones, i am sure you will provide a harsh time to your opponent. Also the Spell/Trap pluses, was always welcome.

Not surprised I guess. It's Working better at the very beginning when the relevant Tools werent used yet.
Though consider that it can be used with the level 7 MP (you could search with combination After Killing it ) for a big eye to Deal with most opponents monsters instead.
Ofcourse it can be tuned to crystal as well if there is any Tuner that works with MP (e teleport for re bible maybe since psychic archtype)

DelCtrl
31st May 2016, 03:07 PM
I think they're more in need of a Spell or Trap that smooths out the engine more.


Doesn't matter. Those cards should have come out the first time around. I don't want to wait any longer.
All I want out of DM legacy support this set is Red-Eyes Meteor Dragon, Meteor Black Flare Dragon (another Red-Eyes Fusion target) and a retrain of Magician of Black Chaos with it's own new Ritual spell.

I agree with Hope on this one, Red-Eyes need something to make their engine work better. Even if I would like to have both a Meteor B. Dragon retrain and a Meteor Dragon retrain because we get another target for Red-Eyes Fusion and another level 6 for R6NK plays, a better engine would make the deck work better as a whole. Plus, another target for Fusion means we need to run another vanilla probably, and this kills what little consistency Red-Eyes have.

And I'm still skeptical on this leak, I'm not expecting Red-Eyes support to really happen. Probably only game original archetypes and not nostalgia ones will get support on INOV.

But a MoBC retrain? That would be awesome.

Volteccer
31st May 2016, 04:17 PM
What if the Meteor dragon retrain can be used to give the deck more consistency? Like you can discard it for a spell-like effect or something. Then you can have your cake and eat it too.

DelCtrl
31st May 2016, 05:12 PM
What if the Meteor dragon retrain can be used to give the deck more consistency? Like you can discard it for a spell-like effect or something. Then you can have your cake and eat it too.

Although unlikely, that would be cool and would solve the problem of the Meteor Dragon retrain being a dead draw, also would open up a lot of possible plays. But besides that, I would really like a Meteor Dragon retrain that could be treated as a normal monster while in the deck, so we wouldn't need to run the original if we wanted to also run the hypothetical Meteor B. Dragon retrain.

Now, staying on topic, what do you guys think that the hypothetical Yang-Zing support could be? A new Synchro? Another Tuner? An Xyz?

Indytotof
31st May 2016, 05:24 PM
What if the Meteor dragon retrain can be used to give the deck more consistency? Like you can discard it for a spell-like effect or something. Then you can have your cake and eat it too.

Problem is... if you want this card to be worth using, you must have first a better Red-Eyes Fusion (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Red-Eyes_Fusion).

ScionStorm
31st May 2016, 07:22 PM
What if the Meteor dragon retrain can be used to give the deck more consistency? Like you can discard it for a spell-like effect or something. Then you can have your cake and eat it too.
I gave it a go: Red-Eyes Meteor Dragon (https://forums.ygorganization.com/showthread.php/127-Official-Create-a-Card-Thread?p=32891&viewfull=1#post32891)


Problem is... if you want this card to be worth using, you must have first a better Red-Eyes Fusion (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Red-Eyes_Fusion).

What more do you want out of REF? Like, what exactly would you change to make it better?

Indytotof
31st May 2016, 07:33 PM
I gave it a go: Red-Eyes Meteor Dragon (https://forums.ygorganization.com/showthread.php/127-Official-Create-a-Card-Thread?p=32891&viewfull=1#post32891)



What more do you want out of REF? Like, what exactly would you change to make it better?

Not having summoning restrictions. And have the ability to use Geminis as Fusion Material from the Deck.

ScionStorm
31st May 2016, 07:47 PM
Not having summoning restrictions. And have the ability to use Geminis as Fusion Material from the Deck.

If you could have one or the other. Which would you choose to change?