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ScionStorm
23rd October 2016, 08:30 AM
Alright, so we have yet again made it to that special time of year after the October chapter of manga has been released and before the November Jump brings us spoilers on this year's Premium Pack.

Within this special time we now have probably all the cards we could get from the manga, and know which ones are likely to get printed somewhere else.

And, so, my friends, I invite you to speculate on what this year's Premium set will consist of in it's entirety.

For me, I'm thinking Raid Raptor's Replica might get thrown in there. And while I think Fluffal Fusionist, Edge Imp Cotton Eater, Frightfur Daredevil and Frightfur Reborn could very well appear in Fusion Enforcers, I believe Fluffal Angel and Album of Memories could wind up in PP19.

Then there is Ren's deck. 1 main deck monster, 2 Synchros, 4 spells 2 traps. I think seven of those have chances of getting in(the monsters and spells). Although, in what capacity I'm not sure(effects might be merged). This also depends on how the "White" archetype will be treated in the OCG. Will it be an actual archetype as is(unlikely, even if it accidentally supports BEWD). So perhaps it will insist on "White" Fish-Type monsters, which could work. That would at least open the main deck up to Great White and White Dolphin without needing to erase the archetype all together the way Jack's anime "Red" archetype had to.

Reiji's 3 new monsters have a popular chance to show up in PP19.

Then lets move onto our hero(s).
SR Passinglider is already scheduled for a release, so we only have to worry about SR Domino Butterfly(a tuner and likely transformed into Passinglider's Pendulum partner). Barrier Gum is a little too generic and could get shoved into Domino Butterfly's (unknown)effect easily. Synchro Panic is a little different. It could come out on it's own.

And then there are the oddball Pendulum supports. Pendulum Transfer lets you throw any monster you control into the Pendulum Zone. Pendulum Fusion allows you to use Pendulum Zone cards as material for a Fusion summon. Both are a little dubious. Transfer moreso than PFusion. Seems a bit revolutionary for a Premium Pack card.

And then we have Yuya's Performapals. Card Gardna, Ballad and Barracuda. There is also Performapal Show Up, but its a very basic effect. Not sure if it is worth to have it's own slot or merged into another card's effect.

I might create a list when I have thought more about how the "White" cards might play out in OCG.

Sanokal
23rd October 2016, 10:10 AM
I think that we may need Photon's input here.

melcarba
23rd October 2016, 10:45 AM
Are you sure we're going to have Premium Pack 19? Isn't that just the 20th Anniversary Pack 1st Wave?

Sanokal
23rd October 2016, 06:08 PM
Nah, and I believe that Photon already explained about that elsewhere.

ScionStorm
23rd October 2016, 07:40 PM
Are you sure we're going to have Premium Pack 19? Isn't that just the 20th Anniversary Pack 1st Wave?

I don't remember the Millennium Pack replacing PP18 last year. Why would you think 20AP would replace PP19?

Sanokal
23rd October 2016, 08:08 PM
Yep, there it is.

ScionStorm
23rd October 2016, 09:02 PM
My first list for speculation:



1
Performapal Ballad (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Enter-Mate_Ballad)
Pendulum Effect Monster


2
Performapal Barracuda (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Enter-Mate_Barracuda)
Pendulum Effect Monster


3
Performapal Card Gardna (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Enter-Mate_Card_Gardna)
Effect Monster


4
Speedroid Domino Butterfly (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Speedroid_Domino_Butterfly)
Pendulum Effect Monster


5
D/D Count Surveyor (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/D/D_Count_Surveyor)
Pendulum Effect Monster


6
D/D Scale Surveyor (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/D/D_Scale_Surveyor)
Pendulum Effect Monster


7
D/D/D Choushiou Zero Maxwell (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/D/D/D_Choushiou_Zero_Maxwell)
Effect Monster


8
Fluffal Angel (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Fluffal_Angel)
Pendulum Effect Monster


9
White Moray (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/White_Moray) (+White Circle Reef (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/White_Circle_Reef))
Effect Monster


10
Baby Spider (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Spider) (+Aracno-Cannibalism (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Aracno-Cannibalism))
Effect Monster


11
Mother Spider (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Mother_Spider_(manga))
Effect Monster


12
Rainbow Spider (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Rainbow_Spider) (+Spider Hatching (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Spider_Hatching))
Effect Monster


13
White Aura Dolphin (http://White Aura Dolphin)
Synchro Effect Monster


14
White Aura Whale (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/White_Aura_Whale)
Synchro Effect Monster


15
Number 70: Deadly Sin (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_70:_Deadly_Sin)
Xyz Effect Monster


16
Pendulum Fusion (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Pendulum_Fusion)
Normal Spell Card


17
White Mirror (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/White_Mirror)
Normal Spell Card



18
White Prosperity (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/White_Prosperity)
Normal Spell Card


19
Rank-Up Spider Web (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Rank-Up_Spider_Web)
Continuous Spell Card


20
Album of Memories (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Album_of_Memories)
Continuous Trap Card

ScionStorm
31st October 2016, 05:44 PM
Since the Fusion Enforcers set appears to be abysmally disappointing with Sora likely only having a total of 3 new cards, I'm going to have to rethink my list.

Does no one else have their own ideas of what PP19 will look like?

Dread Kaiser
31st October 2016, 07:04 PM
Rank Up Magic - Shining Force, retooled as a Generic Rez n Rank. maybe locked into only Numbers, and hopefully not into Chaos Numbers

Charly Ruri Raptors
1st November 2016, 10:23 AM
I want this printed in here http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Instant_Mask_Change

ScionStorm
1st November 2016, 08:25 PM
I want this printed in here http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Instant_Mask_Change

The only reason for that card to be printed is if the main deck Masked HEROs get printed but I don't think anything from GX will find its way into this year's premium pack.

Charly Ruri Raptors
1st November 2016, 08:33 PM
Oh really? Sadpanda :( . Then i just hope the 3 new pendulum monsters for Fluffals and DDD get printed as well as the Firghtfur Fusion. I would also like if the Synchros Ren used got printed as well. Any chance something from 5d's or Zexal will get printed here?

Charly Ruri Raptors
1st November 2016, 08:51 PM
The only reason for that card to be printed is if the main deck Masked HEROs get printed but I don't think anything from GX will find its way into this year's premium pack.

I would really dig some main deck M.Heros, make Contrast playable and whatnot.

Eerie Code
4th November 2016, 01:26 PM
My first list for speculation:



1
Performapal Ballad (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Enter-Mate_Ballad)
Pendulum Effect Monster


2
Performapal Barracuda (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Enter-Mate_Barracuda)
Pendulum Effect Monster


3
Performapal Card Gardna (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Enter-Mate_Card_Gardna)
Effect Monster


4
Speedroid Domino Butterfly (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Speedroid_Domino_Butterfly)
Pendulum Effect Monster


5
D/D Count Surveyor (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/D/D_Count_Surveyor)
Pendulum Effect Monster


6
D/D Scale Surveyor (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/D/D_Scale_Surveyor)
Pendulum Effect Monster


7
D/D/D Choushiou Zero Maxwell (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/D/D/D_Choushiou_Zero_Maxwell)
Effect Monster


8
Fluffal Angel (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Fluffal_Angel)
Pendulum Effect Monster


9
White Moray (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/White_Moray) (+White Circle Reef (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/White_Circle_Reef))
Effect Monster


10
Baby Spider (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Spider) (+Aracno-Cannibalism (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Aracno-Cannibalism))
Effect Monster


11
Mother Spider (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Mother_Spider_(manga))
Effect Monster


12
Rainbow Spider (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Rainbow_Spider) (+Spider Hatching (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Spider_Hatching))
Effect Monster


13
White Aura Dolphin (http://White Aura Dolphin)
Synchro Effect Monster


14
White Aura Whale (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/White_Aura_Whale)
Synchro Effect Monster


15
Number 70: Deadly Sin (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_70:_Deadly_Sin)
Xyz Effect Monster


16
Pendulum Fusion (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Pendulum_Fusion)
Normal Spell Card


17
White Mirror (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/White_Mirror)
Normal Spell Card



18
White Prosperity (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/White_Prosperity)
Normal Spell Card


19
Rank-Up Spider Web (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Rank-Up_Spider_Web)
Continuous Spell Card


20
Album of Memories (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Album_of_Memories)
Continuous Trap Card



Congratulations, Scion: one of your guesses was correct (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Speedroid_Domino_Butterfly)! Granted, you were off by one spot, but all things considered not bad! If I had to guess which Performapal will get the axe, I'd go with "Performapal Card Gardna", they don't usually break a set like Ballad and Barracuda: maybe the other Fluffal Pendulum will take its spot?

melcarba
4th November 2016, 04:03 PM
Hopefully, the Gates of Numeron (Number 1 to 4), and Number 28 will also be in PP19.

ScionStorm
4th November 2016, 04:49 PM
Hopefully, the Gates of Numeron (Number 1 to 4), and Number 28 will also be in PP19.

None of those are manga cards. This isn't a Collectors Pack.

Dread Kaiser
4th November 2016, 05:02 PM
None of those are manga cards. This isn't a Collectors Pack.
it doesn't have to be Manga only just because the last 2 were
Premium pack 16 had The Gimmick puppets, Chronomolies, their Chaos Numbers and argent Chaos force etc

melcarba
4th November 2016, 05:46 PM
None of those are manga cards. This isn't a Collectors Pack.

And even then, during the last Collectors Pack, all Numbers that debuted there were game originals (which is really fine for me), save for Number 100: Numeron Dragon.

Megamaw
4th November 2016, 11:23 PM
please give us manga yusei cards like screwturn, and turn them into 'junk' support

my family is dying


more rank 1s would also be nice but i dont think there was any we're missing from the manga unfortunately

ScionStorm
5th November 2016, 02:35 AM
it doesn't have to be Manga only just because the last 2 were
Premium pack 16 had The Gimmick puppets, Chronomolies, their Chaos Numbers and argent Chaos force etc

Yes and I despised that set. I hope that never happens again. That set screwed us out of 5Ds manga cards. Places where manga cards can come out are already super limited and they instead gave us a bunch of anime cards. Anyways, the Zexal anime is over so even if they were to screw us over again and print anime cards in the PP, they would be Arc-V cards.

Dread Kaiser
5th November 2016, 04:35 AM
Yes and I despised that set. I hope that never happens again. That set screwed us out of 5Ds manga cards. Places where manga cards can come out are already super limited and they instead gave us a bunch of anime cards. Anyways, the Zexal anime is over so even if they were to screw us over again and print anime cards in the PP, they would be Arc-V cards.

Sadly, thats an opinion as I loved getting C6 and the rest without having to wait for them to become core set imports, probably as commons...

Regardless, the precedent is there.

having said that, the Zexal stuff was certainly the exception, not the rule. so I wouldn't realisticly be expecting anime cards

ScionStorm
19th November 2016, 03:27 AM
So now that we know some of the cards in this pack, what do you guys think might be the other cards in it?

melcarba
19th November 2016, 01:01 PM
So now that we know some of the cards in this pack, what do you guys think might be the other cards in it?

We should be getting Number 28.

ScionStorm
19th November 2016, 07:37 PM
If we are going with unfinished sets though(Brohunder, Gozuki), it would be nice to get Sect's Giant Hades Stag Beetle.

Maybe Asuka could get more of her Ice Counter deck like Absolute Zero Barrier or Cold Fusion. Or maybe Frost Tiger could have a "cool" Ice Counter generating effect.

It looks like there is going to be 8 Arc-V cards and 4 each of Zexal, 5Ds and GX

Destiny91
19th November 2016, 07:49 PM
If we are going with unfinished sets though(Brohunder, Gozuki), it would be nice to get Sect's Giant Hades Stag Beetle.

Maybe Asuka could get more of her Ice Counter deck like Absolute Zero Barrier or Cold Fusion. Or maybe Frost Tiger could have a "cool" Ice Counter generating effect.

It looks like there is going to be 8 Arc-V cards and 4 each of Zexal, 5Ds and GX

Ren's deck is a must. At least the Synchros.
For Zexal, I think number 28 and maybe CXyz Zubaba Saikyou General would be nice (This one was from the Team Zexal manga, but maybe it can be part of the pack.)
For 5Ds, I only want the Synchro support Spells and Traps, Necroid Synchro was a really good start.

ScionStorm
19th November 2016, 08:07 PM
Ren's deck is a must. At least the Synchros.
For Zexal, I think number 28 and maybe CXyz Zubaba Saikyou General would be nice (This one was from the Team Zexal manga, but maybe it can be part of the pack.)
For 5Ds, I only want the Synchro support Spells and Traps, Necroid Synchro was a really good start.

I really want all of Sect's Hell Insect deck to come out. There aren't any pure insect archetypes in the game yet as far as I know.

LolsterXD97
19th November 2016, 08:11 PM
I really hope we get Ren's monsters here, I liked his playstyle. Other things I wish are Jack's Kings and Number 28 (D/Ds too, but they are very late to be released here).

Sanokal
19th November 2016, 09:40 PM
I really want all of Sect's Hell Insect deck to come out. There aren't any pure insect archetypes in the game yet as far as I know.

Inzektors? Though I'd definitely like to see the Horrors.

ScionStorm
19th November 2016, 10:37 PM
Inzektors? Though I'd definitely like to see the Horrors.

Oh, damn. How did I forget about those?

But yeah, Horror Insects would be cool.

If you had to choose 5 cards from Sect's deck to be made, what would you choose?

Sanokal
19th November 2016, 11:04 PM
Oh, damn. How did I forget about those?

But yeah, Horror Insects would be cool.

If you had to choose 5 cards from Sect's deck to be made, what would you choose?

Let me just remember...Tussock Moth, Needle Caterpillar, Spider with an effect that also ties into the Spider archetype, Grub, and Gift.

ScionStorm
19th November 2016, 11:12 PM
Let me just remember...Tussock Moth, Needle Caterpillar, Spider with an effect that also ties into the Spider archetype, Grub, and Gift.

My choices would be Toxic Moth, Grub, Spider, Hell Tuning (with a rationalized version of the effect) and Turf. I just can't pass up on Turf.

Sanokal
20th November 2016, 01:18 AM
My choices would be Toxic Moth, Grub, Spider, Hell Tuning (with a rationalized version of the effect) and Turf. I just can't pass up on Turf.

Forgot about Turf. Insect hunting instinct spell, isn't it?

ScionStorm
20th November 2016, 01:48 AM
Forgot about Turf. Insect hunting instinct spell, isn't it?

Quick-Play that lets you Special Summon an insect monster from your hand when your opponent Special Summons a monster. But the cost is that you have to tribute all your monsters on the field. For a deck that enjoys insects in the graveyard like Sect's, this isn't too much of a cost. But since Sect only had 1 monster to tribute when he activated it, I suspect it's ocg version would only require tributing 1 monster you control.

Sect was able to summon his Level 7 Poseidon Beetle on his first turn because he predicted Yusei would resurrect Junk Blader after it was destroyed.

Sanokal
20th November 2016, 05:47 AM
Quick-Play that lets you Special Summon an insect monster from your hand when your opponent Special Summons a monster. But the cost is that you have to tribute all your monsters on the field. For a deck that enjoys insects in the graveyard like Sect's, this isn't too much of a cost. But since Sect only had 1 monster to tribute when he activated it, I suspect it's ocg version would only require tributing 1 monster you control.

Sect was able to summon his Level 7 Poseidon Beetle on his first turn because he predicted Yusei would resurrect Junk Blader after it was destroyed.

That's right. It's been a while since I read volume 1.

LolsterXD97
20th November 2016, 03:15 PM
And we got a V-HERO plus Legacy of a HERO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ3pe-Tcwx4
Please wake me up becasue this is too good to be true.

ScionStorm
21st November 2016, 01:58 AM
I'd like the 020 slot to be either Queen Butterfly, Dark Alligator or Synthesize Sphere(only if they keep its effect as WIND "Sphere" Archetype).

ScionStorm
27th November 2016, 10:14 AM
With what we've got revealed for the set right now, I think the Arc-V card section could look like this:

01) PP Ballad
02) PP Barracuda
03) SR Domino Butterfly
04) Edge-Imp Cotton Eater
05) Pendulum Fusion
06) Frightfur Reborn
07) Raidraptors Replica
08) PP Show Up

Alternatively

01) PP Ballad
02) PP Barracuda
03) SR Domnio Butterfly
04) Pendulum Fusion
05) Edge-Imp Cotton Eater
06) Frightfur Reborn
07) Raidraptors Replica
08) Awakening of the Monarchs/Ren/ Reiji/ Yuma card

Given the GX cards already coming out for this set, it would be nice if we got Emergency Cyber as the 20th card for "Cyber" support. There's also Hail Cyber to coincide with Asuka's cards this year (We got Legacy of a HERO, Vaion because of Edo's D HEROs and Darklord Ukoback because of Darklords) though I wouldn't mind any of Asuka's cards. Ice Counter support would be just as nice, though it wouldn't tie into the rest of Asuka's cards released this year.