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KingJinzo
20th February 2017, 12:25 AM
The episode begins with everyone saying Zarc. It's a bit of a horror to Ayu who starts screaming "NO" when everyone keeps saying that devil's name.

Realizing that he's the Devil Duelist, but also that he has "given up" on that, the Akabas give us exposition, what happened to the Bracelet Girls, how Zarc was absorbed by Layra, etc. After Sawatari questioned how bringing a child's Egao can save the world, Yuya and Reiji answer it. Since Zarc is inside Layra, bringing Layra's Egao back will erase Zarc within her...or something like that. It's really weird. If Yuya fails, Zarc will eventually be resurrected someday and will do the same he did the last two times. (Of course, nobody brings up the obvious solution of killing off Layra, but who would even speak that out aloud. Besides that Layra is an infant now, Layra saved the world in the first place.) Yusyo tells his "son" that if Yuya doesn't win, not only will he not save the world, he fails to become a pro and he won't save Layra and Yuzu. The crowds aren't really convinced of him being the hero, then Youko takes the mic and tells his son that he hasn't fulfilled his promise from exactly 90 episodes ago yet: making everyone smile and bringing Yuzu back. Yuya being an unstable teenager tells her to shut up and he continues to duel his best buddy.

However, Yuya is not really into the duel now and the only thing he does is changing his two monsters' Battle Position and setting a card. Gongenzaka summons the Tuner Monster Kobu-C in Attack Position and attacks Discover Hippo with him. Big Ben-K takes out Odd-Eyes Pendulum and thanks to Double Horn's effect, Big Ben-K can attack a second time and he attacks Yuya directly. Yuya finds an Action Card in the middle of a lava river and uses Evasion to dodge the attack. However, since a monster was destroyed during the Battle Phase, Kobu-C's effect allows Gongenzaka to Synchro Summon during the Battle Phase, tuning his Big Ben-K and Kaku-5 with Kobu-C to Synchro Summon the Level 12 Steam Fiend Tetsudo-O. The man rides on his train and doesn't hold back on Yuya since he wants to become a pro himself. (Anna would be proud on that man, and she's a manly girl.) With its 4800 DEF, it attacks Yuya directly. Yuya finds the Action Card Evade, but Gongenzaka throws his pair of geta towards a rock and jumps from Tetsudo-O to grab the Action Card in mid-air and negates Evasion with No Action. Yuya is moving towards a dead end and he actives his Trap Card Entermate Signal, which appropriately is a traffic light for trains, to draw a card and send it to the Graveyard and if it turns out to be the monster, he can negate the attack. Reiji comments that Yuya loses if he draws a Spell or Trap Card, but he obviously has forgotten that Yuya's deck is full of monsters, he rarely draws anything different unless he's going to win. Yuya draws Sword Fish and negates the attack. The man than activates Tetsudo-O's effect to banish all of his Spell/Trap Cards from his Graveyard and to inflict 200 damage for each card he banishes, inflicting 200 damage on Yuya who has now 700 left. The audience feel the suspense of the duel. Gongenzaka tells Yuya to do his best to become a pro and save Yuzu and Layra. Yuya on the other hand claims he's already doing his best, but you can see how much pressure he has on his shoulder. With Tetsudo-O magic rails, Gongenzaka drives to the other side of the canyon and Yuya is rolling with his blades on them.

Leaving the lava field, there are now on the ruin field (you know, the place where Odd-Eyes Rebellion was born and where Kurosaki's stairs curse started. Yuya Pendulum Summons Odd-Eyes Pendulum and activates the Continuous Spell Pendulum Illusion from his hand. He jumps to grab an Action Card from a ceiling and rides on his dragon, commanding Odd-Eyes Pendulum to attack Tetsudo-O. Yuya sends the Action Card from his hand to the Graveyard to activate Pendulum Illusion's effect. If a Pendulum Monster attacks an opposing monster, that monster cannot be destroyed, but the ATK and DEF are halved during Damage Calculation and the Pendulum Monster inflicts Piercing Damage. With that, Yuya manages to inflict Double Piercing Damage on Gongenzaka, even though the damage is only 200.

The man attacks with Tetsudo-O, but Yuya and Odd-Eyes Pendulum jump on a wall to grab another Action Card to re-use Pendulum Illusion's effect, inflicting another 200 damage on Gongenzaka, who in turn finds an Action Card and sends it along with Big Wara-G to the Graveyard to activate Tetsudo-O's effect to destroy Odd-Eyes Pendulum, then he banishes the Action Card from his Graveyard to inflict 200 Burn Damage on Yuya with Tetsudo-O. By the way, a backwards moving train is awesome.

Now on the forrest field (where we first learned about Yuya's inner darkness), Yuya skips his Draw Phase to keep his Pendulum Illusion to Pendulum Summon Odd-Eyes Pendulum. With Allen's boots, Yuya overtakes Gongenzaka with Tetsudo-O and declares to attack with Odd-Eyes. Gongenzaka jumps from his train and runs next to Yuya's left and is on par with him, despite Gongenzaka is only running on foot while Yuya has rollerblades, nevermind that a train is rushing behind them. We knew that the Josť in him is going to take over some day. Yuya gets it, though. After Odd-Eyes's attack, Gongenzaka jumps back on Tetsudo-O and Yuya jumps back on Odd-Eyes Pendulum.

Now on the ice field (where Yuzu went missing),Gongenzaka attacks with Tetsudo-O, but he fails to get an Action Card before Yuya and takes damage again, but finds another one and sends it along with Makarugaeshi to the Graveyard to destroy Odd-Eyes Pendulum, banishes the Action Card and inflicts 200 Burn Damage on Yuya. It's pretty repetitive, but the audience like it.

And back to the lava field, Yuya skips his Draw Phase and Pendulum Summons Odd-Eyes Pendulum. Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon and Gongenzaka jump to get the Action Card from the bottom of a bridge, but Yuya jumps from his dragon to reach it before his best bud. Although frustrated, he takes it like a man, smiles and Tetsudo-O stops. The Steadfast Duelist takes the Rasen no Strike Burst and Reaction Force like a man and loses with grace. However, he tells Yuya that that's now everything what his Entertainment Duel has to offer and gives him a fistbump on the Pendulum Pendant.

The audience is pleased and Nico wants to declare Yuya the winner of the Junior Youth Cup, but Reiji arrives with a helicopter a la Kaiba style and tells Yuya that he has to duel the other remaining original Lancers to win the championship. He takes Yuya to a wormhole which would lead him to the Xyz Dimension where Kurosaki should reside. Of course, Yuya knows that Serena is gone, too. If he saves Yuzu, he probably would save Serena, Ruri and Rin as well. The protagonist enters the wormhole to challenge Kurosaki, but on the end of the tunnel, Dennis is waiting for him.


Preview:

-Dennis is the heel.
-Dennis scares citizens with his Polymerization card. (It's actually hilarious.)
-We see Trampeze Force Witch and Trampeze Magician.
-The Action Field Cross Over is active.
-Trampaze Magicaian attack's Odd-Eyes Pendulum that is protected by another card.

LolsterXD97
20th February 2017, 12:42 AM
Gongenzaka getting a Level 12 SHS Synchro was nice and stuff, but these effects... Why.

Also, THAT'S what he should have used against Crow or Zarc to let him race along with his opponent via pure train manliness.

KingJinzo
20th February 2017, 12:56 AM
Tetsudo-O might get better effects. At least, it's a nice beatstick.

yyythefuchs
20th February 2017, 05:35 AM
With this episode, once again it's been confirmed that Arc-v is the epic failure of all yugioh history and yuya is the worst protagonist, depending purely on luck and having zero strategy.

Sanokal
20th February 2017, 05:44 AM
With this episode, once again it's been confirmed that Arc-v is the epic failure of all yugioh history and yuya is the worst protagonist, depending purely on luck and having zero strategy.

Not necessarily. His use of Pendulum Illusion was a sound strategy because he's far more experienced at getting Action Cards then Gong is.

yyythefuchs
20th February 2017, 07:01 AM
Not necessarily. His use of Pendulum Illusion was a sound strategy because he's far more experienced at getting Action Cards then Gong is.

You're right, if this nonsense is even considered as a strategy. With the last season of arc-v, the script and duels become such riddiculus that now the audience characters are shouting like 'How amazing duel we're watching right now'. Come on, yugioh is far more better than that and doesn't need these shallowness.

Sanokal
20th February 2017, 08:43 AM
You're right, if this nonsense is even considered as a strategy. With the last season of arc-v, the script and duels become such riddiculus that now the audience characters are shouting like 'How amazing duel we're watching right now'. Come on, yugioh is far more better than that and doesn't need these shallowness.

Still better than the second half of GX, 5D's, and ZEXAL's situational stuff. This kind of strategy has been around since the beginning of the series.

yyythefuchs
20th February 2017, 12:00 PM
Still better than the second half of GX, 5D's, and ZEXAL's situational stuff. This kind of strategy has been around since the beginning of the series.

Comparing second season of this show with the previous ones is wrong i guess. Not only the protagonist but all other characters didn't show any development of their dueling styles except for summonig high level or rank monsters or using different summoning mechanics in arc-v. Think about Shou's final duel co-operating Roids with Cybers, Rua's awekening or Mizael's OTK against Don Thousand. Many characters improved their dueling in the past series; however, in arc-v characters mostly stay where they're. Gongenzaka, Sawatari, Tsukkikage, Yuzu, Serena, Sora, Dennis.... keep loosing in a very cheap manner. Also, there were promising charachters like Yaiba, Barret, Roger, Kachidoki, Shinji, Tyler Sisters and BB remember. Does anyone think any of these characters will improve in the remaining 7-8 episodes? The answer is obvious, no, because with xyz-fusion arc the writers only wanted to finish the series with stupid egao nonsense. It's sad to see that potential of arc-v is exploited with the abuse of action cards now.

Comun
20th February 2017, 03:00 PM
I really like trains, but Yugioh always fails to make likable train-based cards that are not Rank 10 Xyz.

Volteccer
20th February 2017, 04:15 PM
I really like trains, but Yugioh always fails to make likable train-based cards that are not Rank 10 Xyz.

With parameters that specific, the only cards that i think qualify are the level 12 SHS and Dekoichi the Battle-Chained Locomotive (whose name I probably botched).

Comun
20th February 2017, 07:31 PM
Oh, I forgot Dekoichi, he is fine too. The other trains I don't like are the main deck monster for the Rank 10 deck and Allen's Xyz.

Sanokal
21st February 2017, 06:37 AM
Again, this is our main dude we're talking about; this is kind of his shtick. Though it seems he'll be using his summons again if the previews are any indication.
Celina lost once with Lunalights.
Sylvio losing is kinda his thing.
Gong makes personal progress, and breaks his won rules in serious situations.
Moon's main value is as a ninja, not just a duelist, which the show has always been very good at showing.
Sora is an overconfident jackass, which is sorta the point for him.
Zuzu was indeed criminally underutilized, though not for lack of trying on her part.
Roget? His arc was done, unless he shows up again due to the dimensional jiggory pokery.
Iggy is done with.
Shinji is done with.
Yaiba was underused.
Tyler sisters needed another match, and Xyz arc needed a mini-arc with Aster on the run I feel.
Barrett was sadly discarded. A real shame. He might show up again though.
BB was mishandled, but done with most likely.

One thing that REALLY pisses me the hell off is how people are suddenly assuming that there have been drastic changes. As a whole, THE MAIN EVENTS WERE ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN. The whole "egao" theme has been there since Yuya absorbed Yuto. This is not bloody new.

NassX
21st February 2017, 01:50 PM
things i want for these final episodes of arc-v
barrett to appear
yuya vs reiji (probably will happen) for 2/3 episodes; I hate 1 episode duels
Yuya will use good cards instead of the ones in this battle royal

KingJinzo
22nd February 2017, 12:24 AM
things i want for these final episodes of arc-v
barrett to appear
yuya vs reiji (probably will happen) for 2/3 episodes; I hate 1 episode duels
Yuya will use good cards instead of the ones in this battle royal

I was half expecting that Yuya would create the Link Summon mechanic with his Pendulum Pendant. To link all dimensions and shit. Just sayin'. Not serious about that.

KingKaash
24th February 2017, 10:46 PM
Comparing second season of this show with the previous ones is wrong i guess. Not only the protagonist but all other characters didn't show any development of their dueling styles except for summonig high level or rank monsters or using different summoning mechanics in arc-v. Think about Shou's final duel co-operating Roids with Cybers, Rua's awekening or Mizael's OTK against Don Thousand. Many characters improved their dueling in the past series; however, in arc-v characters mostly stay where they're. Gongenzaka, Sawatari, Tsukkikage, Yuzu, Serena, Sora, Dennis.... keep loosing in a very cheap manner. Also, there were promising charachters like Yaiba, Barret, Roger, Kachidoki, Shinji, Tyler Sisters and BB remember. Does anyone think any of these characters will improve in the remaining 7-8 episodes? The answer is obvious, no, because with xyz-fusion arc the writers only wanted to finish the series with stupid egao nonsense. It's sad to see that potential of arc-v is exploited with the abuse of action cards now.

I disagree with the development part. Gong just showed major development in this episode alone. He just gave up his Steadfast dueling style to actually go out and grab Action Cards. He just did something he hasn't really done so far to push Yuya so I would definitely count that as development. Btw I love this big train boss of Gong's. 4800 DEF is a massive beatstick. Only Tokumatsu Flower Cardian Lightflare had more base power with 5000 ATK. Go Synchros huh

So it seems like Yuya's boss is now just Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon. Obviously since Yuto no longer exists (so far) Yuya can't drop Odd-Eyes Rebellion or Odd-Eyes Raging. I'm a bit surprised though that he isn't going to use Rune-Eyes, Beast-Eyes or Brave-Eyes. I still feel like those are Yuya's boss monsters without the help of any other Yu. In the preview it seems like he will be using Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon as his only ace against Dennis as well. Interested to see how long that lasts

LolsterXD97
24th February 2017, 11:10 PM
Now that I finally watched the episode:

-Animation is still crap. 3D Yuya looked awkward compared to his previous apparences and I don't remember how many times they repeated the same shot of Tetsudowo losing ATK.

-Duel got pretty repetive with Yuya and Gongenzaka only losing 200 LP every turn to fill time. Also, Pendulum Illusion and Tetsudowo were twisted so Action Cards and only Action Cards decided the entire Duel. And don't even get me started on how Gongenzaka abandoning his Steadfast Dueling wasn't treated like a big deal except for a passing mention of Yuya and Sawatari (and where was his father, who flipped his shit when he Summoned a single Synchro?).

-Plot-wise is still a mess. The audience somehow knew about Zarc and got used to the whole situation pretty quickly, Reiji somehow knew about how the En Cards worked and had to explain it to us because the show didn't bother before, and finally the not-at-all-convinient Dimension Corridors which honestly weren't even necessary considering Reiji had dimensional traveling tech. And of course we have Yuya angst again but for the wrong reasons (really, 142 ended with a cool shot of him realizing he was Zarc and that literally gets tossed away in the first seconds of the next episode like nothing?). Also, I still don't understand the logic of Zarc being a separate spirit from Yuya instead of the original form of the 4 Yus and how Reira could seal him in the first place (along with the whole subplot).

For the next episode we will have the other Dimensions with the memories of their inhabitants somehow intact (then what was the point of Pendulum losing them in the first place?) and Shun realizing Yuto and Ruri were absent so he goes to Fusion off-screen (which would have stronger impact if we saw him come to that conclusion on-screen you know).

Subpar episode to me with the only bonus being Gongenzaka finally getting focus. Nevertheless, looking forward to Dennis in the next episode.


He just gave up his Steadfast dueling style to actually go out and grab Action Cards. He just did something he hasn't really done so far to push Yuya so I would definitely count that as development.

He already did that against BB tho. Anyway, the problem is that the moment lacks actual subtance since the characters didn't react like they should have because you have things like Yuya and Sawatari casually mentioning Gongenzaka throwing away his Steadfast Dueling and nothing else (and Gongenzaka's father, who is the one we must have had a reaction from, being absent). And its something that occured too late for me to care about along with the fact we never were in Gongenzaka's mind since the whole "Dimensional War" bs started to even care about him.

KingKaash
25th February 2017, 12:52 AM
Now that I finally watched the episode:

-Animation is still crap. 3D Yuya looked awkward compared to his previous apparences and I don't remember how many times they repeated the same shot of Tetsudowo losing ATK.

-Duel got pretty repetive with Yuya and Gongenzaka only losing 200 LP every turn to fill time. Also, Pendulum Illusion and Tetsudowo were twisted so Action Cards and only Action Cards decided the entire Duel. And don't even get me started on how Gongenzaka abandoning his Steadfast Dueling wasn't treated like a big deal except for a passing mention of Yuya and Sawatari (and where was his father, who flipped his shit when he Summoned a single Synchro?).

-Plot-wise is still a mess. The audience somehow knew about Zarc and got used to the whole situation pretty quickly, Reiji somehow knew about how the En Cards worked and had to explain it to us because the show didn't bother before, and finally the not-at-all-convinient Dimension Corridors which honestly weren't even necessary considering Reiji had dimensional traveling tech. And of course we have Yuya angst again but for the wrong reasons (really, 142 ended with a cool shot of him realizing he was Zarc and that literally gets tossed away in the first seconds of the next episode like nothing?). Also, I still don't understand the logic of Zarc being a separate spirit from Yuya instead of the original form of the 4 Yus and how Reira could seal him in the first place (along with the whole subplot).

For the next episode we will have the other Dimensions with the memories of their inhabitants somehow intact (then what was the point of Pendulum losing them in the first place?) and Shun realizing Yuto and Ruri were absent so he goes to Fusion off-screen (which would have stronger impact if we saw him come to that conclusion on-screen you know).

Subpar episode to me with the only bonus being Gongenzaka finally getting focus. Nevertheless, looking forward to Dennis in the next episode.



He already did that against BB tho. Anyway, the problem is that the moment lacks actual subtance since the characters didn't react like they should have because you have things like Yuya and Sawatari casually mentioning Gongenzaka throwing away his Steadfast Dueling and nothing else (and Gongenzaka's father, who is the one we must have had a reaction from, being absent). And its something that occured too late for me to care about along with the fact we never were in Gongenzaka's mind since the whole "Dimensional War" bs started to even care about him.

Yea I didn't want to comment it but the duel was definitely repetitive. It's actually kind of pathetic that Gong can't even counter a basic strategy like that after getting his boss monster on the field.

I thought of the BB duel and how he left his style but that was more of him acting as a shield/sacrifice in one move. This time he actually carries his change of style throughout the remainder of the duel which I think shows improvement. If he chose to start using S/T cards and abandoning his style, then he should usually lose right away because of how SHS function. But he found a way to continue with his new boss monster. The Gong focus has been weak the entire show though, I do agree with that and I've said it before. There are so many things they could've done better. But basically since this is the last duel we'll see from good old Gong, his development went from no Synchros at all at the beginning to using Synchros and playing Spells and Traps in a deck that really doesn't do it. Pretty big jump for him overall